• Increase media payout. I'd double the payouts at LEAST.
• Give TPE for participation in PTs. It doesn't have to be anything crazy. 3 TPE for participating, +2 for each correct response... because it'd be a lot, CAP IT at like... 10 TPE total.
• Change training. 500k for 3 TPE, 1mil for 5 TPE. Can only claim 1 a season.

(06-09-2017, 10:39 AM)Durden Wrote:Full disclosure: I read the first couple responses and saw "what would you propose" and I'm writing this without reading the REST of the discussion.


I think you need to decide WHAT you want your users to do on the site.

If you want them to write media, make media pay more. (When I did 500 words and realized I got only 250k, I was pissed). I'm willing to do media if it's WORTH it. But for 500 words, for 250k, when training for a WEEK is 1 mil, no thanks.

Do you want people to be able to consistently buy training? Increase media payout, or increase the salary cap and minimums.

Do you want people to have to push hard for everything they earn? Plan for people to leave.

Do you want people to do PTs/mocks/etc. ? Then reward points just for doing them.



Personally, I'd:

• [/li]
• Increase media payout. I'd double the payouts at LEAST.
  
• Give TPE for participation in PTs. It doesn't have to be anything crazy. 3 TPE for participating, +2 for each correct response... because it'd be a lot, CAP IT at like... 10 TPE total.
  
• Change training. 500k for 3 TPE, 1mil for 5 TPE. Can only claim 1 a season.
  

I think you'd retain a lot more people. Let's be honest. We're all here to have fun, and most sim league users are lazy. We all want success, but it can't just be handed to us. We need to put in work and do things, but the way it is now, you have to do SO much to make a decent player.

Also, 1300 TPE to max out, earning 130 every 10 weeks?  That's 10 seasons x 10 weeks (per season) that's TWO YEARS TO MAX OUT. Is that the goal?


Here's the crux of the problem:

Biggest way to gain TPE is to train.
Training costs 1 mil for 3 TPE.
1 mil 1300 words.


Who in their right mind is going to write 1300 words every week?

I'm an English Teacher in real life... and I love reading and writing. I'm not going to write 1300 words a week. And I'm sure as hell not going to read 1300 words PER ARTICLE a week.


Thanks for listening to a scrub. I appreciate it

(06-09-2017, 01:39 PM)Durden Wrote:Full disclosure: I read the first couple responses and saw "what would you propose" and I'm writing this without reading the REST of the discussion.


I think you need to decide WHAT you want your users to do on the site.

If you want them to write media, make media pay more. (When I did 500 words and realized I got only 250k, I was pissed). I'm willing to do media if it's WORTH it. But for 500 words, for 250k, when training for a WEEK is 1 mil, no thanks.

Do you want people to be able to consistently buy training? Increase media payout, or increase the salary cap and minimums.

Do you want people to have to push hard for everything they earn? Plan for people to leave.

Do you want people to do PTs/mocks/etc. ? Then reward points just for doing them.



Personally, I'd:

• [/li]
• Increase media payout. I'd double the payouts at LEAST.
  
• Give TPE for participation in PTs. It doesn't have to be anything crazy. 3 TPE for participating, +2 for each correct response... because it'd be a lot, CAP IT at like... 10 TPE total.
  
• Change training. 500k for 3 TPE, 1mil for 5 TPE. Can only claim 1 a season.
  

I think you'd retain a lot more people. Let's be honest. We're all here to have fun, and most sim league users are lazy. We all want success, but it can't just be handed to us. We need to put in work and do things, but the way it is now, you have to do SO much to make a decent player.

Also, 1300 TPE to max out, earning 130 every 10 weeks?  That's 10 seasons x 10 weeks (per season) that's TWO YEARS TO MAX OUT. Is that the goal?


Here's the crux of the problem:

Biggest way to gain TPE is to train.
Training costs 1 mil for 3 TPE.
1 mil 1300 words.


Who in their right mind is going to write 1300 words every week?

I'm an English Teacher in real life... and I love reading and writing. I'm not going to write 1300 words a week. And I'm sure as hell not going to read 1300 words PER ARTICLE a week.


Thanks for listening to a scrub. I appreciate it

(06-09-2017, 11:39 AM)Durden Wrote:Full disclosure: I read the first couple responses and saw "what would you propose" and I'm writing this without reading the REST of the discussion.


I think you need to decide WHAT you want your users to do on the site.

If you want them to write media, make media pay more. (When I did 500 words and realized I got only 250k, I was pissed). I'm willing to do media if it's WORTH it. But for 500 words, for 250k, when training for a WEEK is 1 mil, no thanks.

Do you want people to be able to consistently buy training? Increase media payout, or increase the salary cap and minimums.

Do you want people to have to push hard for everything they earn? Plan for people to leave.

Do you want people to do PTs/mocks/etc. ? Then reward points just for doing them.



Personally, I'd:

• [/li]
• Increase media payout. I'd double the payouts at LEAST.
  
• Give TPE for participation in PTs. It doesn't have to be anything crazy. 3 TPE for participating, +2 for each correct response... because it'd be a lot, CAP IT at like... 10 TPE total.
  
• Change training. 500k for 3 TPE, 1mil for 5 TPE. Can only claim 1 a season.
  

I think you'd retain a lot more people. Let's be honest. We're all here to have fun, and most sim league users are lazy. We all want success, but it can't just be handed to us. We need to put in work and do things, but the way it is now, you have to do SO much to make a decent player.

Also, 1300 TPE to max out, earning 130 every 10 weeks?  That's 10 seasons x 10 weeks (per season) that's TWO YEARS TO MAX OUT. Is that the goal?


Here's the crux of the problem:

Biggest way to gain TPE is to train.
Training costs 1 mil for 3 TPE.
1 mil 1300 words.


Who in their right mind is going to write 1300 words every week?

I'm an English Teacher in real life... and I love reading and writing. I'm not going to write 1300 words a week. And I'm sure as hell not going to read 1300 words PER ARTICLE a week.


Thanks for listening to a scrub. I appreciate it

(06-09-2017, 01:41 PM)TheWoZy Wrote:You're a scrub in GOMHL!

(06-09-2017, 10:38 AM)Kendrick Wrote:The average age of the VHL is a lot higher as well though, so they have jobs during the day. Comparing the two's numbers show how out to lunch one can be. It's also the longest running sim league and doesn't have shit storms every day like the SHL.

I was right about the whole "they will say nothings wrong", because thats the response I got from guys here who are "leaders". They didn't even want to listen to change discussion, they just got defensive.

My point is that money shouldn't be the sole way to succeed in this league, and it is.

(06-09-2017, 11:45 AM)Perkules Wrote:Like I said I have no issues with the VHL.  It wasn't the league for me so I went inactive, I make ZERO leadership decisions here. Just because I'm a GM I didn't have any infrastructure decisions, and for me to prefer the SHL way vs VHL is my opinion.