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S30 Rules Summit - iStegosauruz - 07-15-2021
The S30 ISFL Rules Summit has recently come to a close. GMs, Head Office members and Department Heads were encouraged to submit proposed changes to the rulebook and league procedure. With 22 voting members (14 teams, 6 HO members, 1 league owner, and 1 simmer), 16 votes were needed for a proposal to pass.
Below is the full list of proposed rule changes and the final voting results for each.
1. ISFL Teams are able to pay, either in full or partial, for their player's re-distribution of TPE against their salary cap. (HO has ruled to allow this, but is seeking to have this codified through the rule proposal process for future)
21 For - 1 Against
Rule Passes
2. Allow regression players to be extended on projected regression totals, if a player exceeds the projected regression total tier the contract is voided.
9 For - 13 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
3. If a rule proposal is voted down, it cannot be added to the ballot again the following rules summit.
5 For - 17 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
4. Effective immediately, HO will create a "pre-punishment" Discord room, and will immediately begin posting punishment threads there 12 hours prior to the official punishment thread going live. GMs will be allowed to provide input on the proposed punishment, but HO will have the final say on all punishment decisions. In special circumstances, HO can forgo the 12 hour period if punishment is needed sooner, as long as they notify the GMs prior to the posting of the thread in the "pre-punishment room."
10 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
We also conducted a special rules summit addressing some issues impacting both the DSFL and ISFL. With 34 voting members (14 ISFL teams, 8 DSFL teams, 6 ISFL HO members, 3 DSFL HO members, 1 league owner, and 2 simmer), 24 votes were needed for a proposal to pass.
Below is the full list of proposed rule changes and the final voting results for each.
1. Agent costs will no longer be $10 million a season; instead agent costs will be an initial fee of $10 million for a license, followed by a payment of $3 million per season to renew their license until the agent creates a player in the league.
22 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
2. The current pro bowl roster counts shall be amended to the following, with changes indicated
QB 2
RB 3
FB 1
TE 2
WR 4 -> 5
OL *
DE 2 -> 3
DT 2 -> 3
LB 3 -> 4
CB 3 -> 4
S 3
K 1 -> 2
P 1 -> 2
KR 2
14 For - 20 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
3. Users may claim recruitment TPE on players that they have brought to the league. Once a recruited player is updated past 100 TPE, the recruiter may claim 2 TPE. Once a recruited player is updated past 250 TPE, the recruiter may claim an additional 3 TPE. To claim, a user must link the roster page of their recruit to their update thread. However, TPE may not be claimed if one of the following applies:
- the recruited player is a recreate and had a player less than 5 seasons ago
- the recruited player has reached their draft season +2 (ie a S31 recruit may not have TPE claimed from them following the end of S33)
- the recruiting user has retired and recreated between the time of recruitment and the time of claiming that recruitment.
A user may only claim 5 recruits per player career.
21 For - 13 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
4. Give GM's PT Passes
6 For - 28 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
5. Give Bankers UW Passes
10 For - 24 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
6. DSFL GMs are unable to become RMs and vice versa
27 For - 7 Against
Rule Passes
7. Move Awards to after the ISFL Draft.
23 For - 10 Against
Rule Passes
8. Users have an option to purchase a single use PT Pass for that week. The more passes the person uses, the more expensive they become. The cost would reset after every season and cannot be used for UW or Season/Game Predictions. The cost of each pass is below. The cost is compounding as you would need 39,000,000 to get a full PT Pass. 1st Pass: 2,000,000 2nd Pass: 4,000,000 3rd Pass: 8,000,000 4th Pass: 10,000,000 5th Pass: 15,000,000
22 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
9. Unless otherwise specified in the schedule, if the schedule sets an event or deadline as the occurrence of another event (such as a sim/game), then the first event or deadline is set as the time the broadcast of the second event (eg. sim/game) is scheduled to start. If the second event is postponed with an official announcement, then the second event or deadline tied to it is also postponed.
25 For - 7 Against
Rule Passes
10. Unless there is a compelling reason to the contrary which has been confirmed by the Owner, any punishment for a member of Head Office will be double the normal amount set by precedent. If there is no precedent set, those setting the punishment must first determine what the punishment should be for a non-HO member, and then double the punishment for the HO member to be punished.
26 For - 8 Against
Rule Passes
11. Job Heads must obtain HO approval for all new hires, including job head replacements. Approval must be sought before hiring announcements are posted. This holds Job Heads to the same standard as GMs who must by existing rule gain HO approval
14 For - 20 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
12. Remove the word "active" from the before the word "account" in the definition of "Multi."
24 For - 10 Against
Rule Passes
13. Add somewhere in the rulebook: "It is strictly prohibited for one person to have multiple forum accounts. If a person needs help logging in to their account they simply need to contact any member of Head Office who can help them to regain access."
26 For - 8 Against
Rule Passes
14. Head Office members can choose to opt in to voting for awards. If they intend to do so they need to alert the events team prior to the streaming of the first ISFL playoff game.
17 For - 17 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
15. The definition of a multi will only include the utilization of two non-retired players at one specific time. Every user is only allowed to have one non-retired player. If that user makes additional accounts and thus has multiple players that are playing in the ISFL/DSFL, that would be a multi. It would not be a multi if a returning user wants a blank slate and wants to create a new alias in which the old alias does not have an active player.
6 For - 28 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
16. Decrease the maximum amount of TPE that one can reallocate per season from 50 back to the old cap of 32. Allow players an additional option to purchase a "Trait TPE Reallocation" once per season for $5M that allows them to sell back one trait from their player build and reallocate all TPE spent on that trait into other attributes and/or traits.
17 For - 17 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Code:
ISFL Rule 1 passes. Rule 1 will be added to the rulebook and will go into effect during the off-season.
Universal Rules 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, and 13 pass. Rule 6 will be added to the rulebook and go into effect at the Rookie Mentor Head's discretion. Rule 7 will be added to the rulebook and go into effect at the end of the season. Rules 9, 12, and 13 will be added to the rulebook and go into effect at the discretion of Head Office. Rule 10 will be added to the rulebook and go into effect immediately. Please feel free to tag @iStegosauruz with any questions!
RE: S30 Rules Summit - UpperNet - 07-15-2021
I have multiple forum accounts
RE: S30 Rules Summit - Dallypole - 07-15-2021
i cant believe the idiots in this league would vote for this
RE: S30 Rules Summit - moonlight - 07-15-2021
rabble rabble
RE: S30 Rules Summit - siddhus - 07-15-2021
Rip the 39 mil PT pass
RE: S30 Rules Summit - AdamS - 07-15-2021
The "special summit" isn't. It happens every season now and has for some time. It could use a better name that's more reflective of what it is.
RE: S30 Rules Summit - Air Crou - 07-15-2021
Quote:3. If a rule proposal is voted down, it cannot be added to the ballot again the following rules summit.Why is this being proposed time and time again, when its purpose is to stop just that? Did we end up in an inception parallel universe?
5 For - 17 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:4. Effective immediately, HO will create a "pre-punishment" Discord room, and will immediately begin posting punishment threads there 12 hours prior to the official punishment thread going live. GMs will be allowed to provide input on the proposed punishment, but HO will have the final say on all punishment decisions. In special circumstances, HO can forgo the 12 hour period if punishment is needed sooner, as long as they notify the GMs prior to the posting of the thread in the "pre-punishment room."That's a very big drop there. But I guess people want to see the masses enraged lol.
10 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:1. Agent costs will no longer be $10 million a season; instead agent costs will be an initial fee of $10 million for a license, followed by a payment of $3 million per season to renew their license until the agent creates a player in the league.Until you find a way for an agent to make money, because there is no rule that states that an agent can get a fee of a player's contract, you will just keep making this not fun. I'd rather see the agents removed at all instead of being something that is theoretically possible, with unrealistic feasibility.
22 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:5. Give Bankers UW PassesOk, I don't even know what to say about this for real. During Ultimus Week, bankers have to process bonuses, next season's contracts, job payouts and whatnot. It's 10 TPE for fuck's sake!
10 For - 24 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:8. Users have an option to purchase a single use PT Pass for that week. The more passes the person uses, the more expensive they become. The cost would reset after every season and cannot be used for UW or Season/Game Predictions. The cost of each pass is below. The cost is compounding as you would need 39,000,000 to get a full PT Pass. 1st Pass: 2,000,000 2nd Pass: 4,000,000 3rd Pass: 8,000,000 4th Pass: 10,000,000 5th Pass: 15,000,000This one right here removes money from the economy. And helps people that are forced to miss tasks due to vacation and whatnot. This is supposed to be a user-friendly league. Dropped the ball on this one.
22 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:11. Job Heads must obtain HO approval for all new hires, including job head replacements. Approval must be sought before hiring announcements are posted. This holds Job Heads to the same standard as GMs who must by existing rule gain HO approval14 people voted in favor of this. Are we for real? Do we need to give so much power to HO?
14 For - 20 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:14. Head Office members can choose to opt in to voting for awards. If they intend to do so they need to alert the events team prior to the streaming of the first ISFL playoff game.I would not be against this. But I'd rather tackle the ballot submission deadlines first before dealing with this.
17 For - 17 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
RE: S30 Rules Summit - woelkers - 07-15-2021
(07-15-2021, 05:24 AM)Air Crou Wrote:Behold, the field in which I grow my fucks, and ye shall see that she is barren. I have no fucks to share with ye this day.Quote:3. If a rule proposal is voted down, it cannot be added to the ballot again the following rules summit.Why is this being proposed time and time again, when its purpose is to stop just that? Did we end up in an inception parallel universe?
5 For - 17 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:4. Effective immediately, HO will create a "pre-punishment" Discord room, and will immediately begin posting punishment threads there 12 hours prior to the official punishment thread going live. GMs will be allowed to provide input on the proposed punishment, but HO will have the final say on all punishment decisions. In special circumstances, HO can forgo the 12 hour period if punishment is needed sooner, as long as they notify the GMs prior to the posting of the thread in the "pre-punishment room."That's a very big drop there. But I guess people want to see the masses enraged lol.
10 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:1. Agent costs will no longer be $10 million a season; instead agent costs will be an initial fee of $10 million for a license, followed by a payment of $3 million per season to renew their license until the agent creates a player in the league.Until you find a way for an agent to make money, because there is no rule that states that an agent can get a fee of a player's contract, you will just keep making this not fun. I'd rather see the agents removed at all instead of being something that is theoretically possible, with unrealistic feasibility.
22 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:5. Give Bankers UW PassesOk, I don't even know what to say about this for real. During Ultimus Week, bankers have to process bonuses, next season's contracts, job payouts and whatnot. It's 10 TPE for fuck's sake!
10 For - 24 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:8. Users have an option to purchase a single use PT Pass for that week. The more passes the person uses, the more expensive they become. The cost would reset after every season and cannot be used for UW or Season/Game Predictions. The cost of each pass is below. The cost is compounding as you would need 39,000,000 to get a full PT Pass. 1st Pass: 2,000,000 2nd Pass: 4,000,000 3rd Pass: 8,000,000 4th Pass: 10,000,000 5th Pass: 15,000,000This one right here removes money from the economy. And helps people that are forced to miss tasks due to vacation and whatnot. This is supposed to be a user-friendly league. Dropped the ball on this one.
22 For - 12 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:11. Job Heads must obtain HO approval for all new hires, including job head replacements. Approval must be sought before hiring announcements are posted. This holds Job Heads to the same standard as GMs who must by existing rule gain HO approval14 people voted in favor of this. Are we for real? Do we need to give so much power to HO?
14 For - 20 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
Quote:14. Head Office members can choose to opt in to voting for awards. If they intend to do so they need to alert the events team prior to the streaming of the first ISFL playoff game.I would not be against this. But I'd rather tackle the ballot submission deadlines first before dealing with this.
17 For - 17 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
RE: S30 Rules Summit - Z-Whiz - 07-15-2021
Quote: 2. Allow regression players to be extended on projected regression totals, if a player exceeds the projected regression total tier the contract is voided.
9 For - 13 Against
Rule Does NOT Pass
ffs
RE: S30 Rules Summit - Big Edd - 07-15-2021
Bleep bloop