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Change Run Support CB to Slot CB - kcheng686 - 09-01-2017
I have heard or Run support LBs or SS, but I have never actually heard of a run support CB, and I'm pretty sure Talib is an All-around or Zone CB, since I know the Denver defense runs sort of a matchup Zone and Tru is close to an All-around as well.
So I think the run support CB archetype should be scrapped and replaced with Slot CBs (CHJr, Logan Ryan). Zone(aka the nickel corner) is one of the predominant types of CBs in the league now, and should replace Run Support
These would be be CBs with max Agi, high Int and speed, and good hands + tackling
Change Run Support CB to Slot CB - Roshambo - 09-01-2017
Just because I do this nonsense
Before Phillips left Denver, they were top 5 in the league with how much they ran man vs zone
something like 45% of defensive snaps
Change Run Support CB to Slot CB - kcheng686 - 09-01-2017
(09-01-2017, 01:11 PM)Roshambo Wrote:Just because I do this nonsense
Before Phillips left Denver, they were top 5 in the league with how much they ran man vs zone
something like 45% of defensive snaps
They ran a matchup zone.
http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/02/01...-super-bowl-50/
From Phillips himself: "Hey, you’re playing this zone, but when a guy comes over there, you match with him,’ That’s the simple way to tell you how we played matchup zone. We play a lot of match zone, but people think we’re playing man-to-man. "
Their defense isnt strictly binary
Change Run Support CB to Slot CB - Roshambo - 09-01-2017
I wasn't saying you were wrong, I literally just added a stat
Saying they only ran his matchup zone is like saying a D modeled after Tampa 2 only has Cover 2 schemes
Change Run Support CB to Slot CB - kcheng686 - 09-01-2017
(09-01-2017, 01:25 PM)Roshambo Wrote:I wasn't saying you were wrong, I literally just added a stat
Saying they only ran his matchup zone is like saying a D modeled after Tampa 2 only has Cover 2 schemes
Their defense is primarily zone, and Talib and CHJ are primarily Zone CBs. Calling CHJr a Man CB and Talib a Run support CB should be fixed
Plus Slot CBs/nickelbacks are very big in defenses now, seems wrong to leave them off.
My point is Run Support CBs are rare if they exist at all, and they should be replace with a more common and important CB type, slot
Change Run Support CB to Slot CB - Roshambo - 09-01-2017
"The Broncos played man coverage on 48.8 percent of their defensive snaps this season, the fourth-highest rate of any team in the NFL."
Literally all I wanted to contribute. Not trying to argue. Nothing to argue.
Plus Phillips is gone
New man Woods has said, ironically, he wants to use his secondary in run support more.
Change Run Support CB to Slot CB - 7hawk77 - 09-01-2017
@kcheng686
Defensive Tackles had a rework at the start of season 2: http://nsfl.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=2082
So this is what I presented this:
http://nsfl.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=2106
Figured you might find this interesting since you commented on the CB archetype balancing.
Also Timeconsumer's article:
http://nsfl.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=2044