A couple of days ago, Philly GM @Hallmonitor_20 posted what appears to be the inaugural class for the Philadelphia Liberty’s official Hall of Fame, titled the Philadelphia Cheese Greats. The first class includes Philly legends such as Tyler Oles, Stephen Harris, Paul DiMirio, Fox North, and Adriana Falconi. While this is truly a star-studded class of excellent players, there were a couple of players that I thought got “snubbed”. DL Brock Weathers III isn’t in this class, and neither is WR Jordan Von Matt, who I feel both deserve to have their numbers honored in Philly.
However, the most egregious of these snubs is RB Marquise Brown. It’s simply absurd not to include him in a list of Philly greats like this. I can’t think of many reasons why one would snub him like this. I assume that since the inaugural class has already been added in, Brown won’t end up in the hall at all. This is insane, since Brown is almost guaranteed to be a first ballot HOFer. I’d like to talk about what makes Brown a Philly great, and why he deserves to be in Philly’s hall.
1. The numbers don’t lie
Brown was drafted with the third pick of the S9 NSFL Draft. He would end up staying down a year in the DSFL with the San Antonio Marshals before moving up in S10 to play in Philly. In his rookie season, Brown broke the single season rushing yardage record with 1902 rushing yards, a number that’s simply impossible to touch now that there are 13 games in a season. Throughout his career in Philly, Brown would rack up 7435 rushing yards (a Liberty franchise record), 56 rushing touchdowns (another franchise record), and 1138 receiving yards, making for a total of 8573 yards from scrimmage. And those are just numbers in his Philly days.
Brown is first all time in career rushing yards with 12587, third all time in rushing touchdowns with 104, and second all time in rushing attempts with 2897. He’s also first all time in scrimmage yards with 15643 (the only other player that comes close is Reg Mackworthy with 15164), and third all-time in total touchdowns with 125. So, I ask of you, with this illustrious career, wouldn’t it make sense for Brown’s number to be at the very least honored by Philly?
Now you could make the argument that the Philly HOF should only consider stats put up while in Philly, which makes sense. But even then, Brown is a franchise record holder in rushing yards and rushing touchdowns, and I’d also assume rushing attempts, but don’t quote me on that. The index is very shotty when it comes to tracking franchise stats.
And when it comes to awards, Brown won an MVP, an OPOY, 3 RBotY awards, an OROY, and appeared in the Pro Bowl 4/5 years in Philly.
2. He trusted the process
When Brown was drafted, the Liberty were in the midst of a massive rebuild. They had just sent out key players like Eli Kamaka in trades for picks and were still getting over the two-week reign of Kolbe as GM (though he netted Philly the picks that would end up drafting Brown and Falconi). The point still stands that during this era, the Liberty were really bad. However, Brown was truly the player that sparked the infamous “process” era in Philly, in which they went 0-14 in S10 to tank for key players. Brown was arguably their only offensive star during S10 and even S11 and made the team enjoyable to watch. In my opinion, Brown should be honored for sticking around throughout this era and publicly rooting for the team, coining the process and the uptick that Philly would end up having later in the decade.
3. The rest of the class
Now, taking a look at the rest of the class, we have QB/CB Tyler Oles, who stuck with the Liberty for 6 seasons, K Stephen Harris who played for 6 as well, TE Paul DiMirio who played for 6, WR Fox North with 7, and QB Adriana Falconi with 8. I think the only argument you could have for Brown not making the Philly HOF would be the number of years he stayed in Philly. However, Brown only played one less year than Oles, DiMirio, and Harris. Out of his 10-year career, that’s half of his time playing in Philly colors.
I’d like to focus on WR Fox North making the class though, since he’s the only skill position player to make it in. While North certainly was consistent, he never won a single WRotY award, OPOY, or MVP. In fact, North has never won a single major award in his career besides being a 4-time pro bowler out of his 7-year career in Philly. Simply looking at the stats between Brown and North tells you all you need to know. How on earth did North make the Philly HOF over Brown as a skill position player?
All in all, it’s preposterous to leave Brown off the Philly HOF and honestly, the Philly front office should be embarrassed. Why make a team HOF when you’re going to leave a player like Brown out of it? Brown is inarguably Philly’s greatest skill position player of all time and deserves a spot on the Philly Cheese Greats list. While I commend the rest of the players that made it in, especially Adriana Falconi, a player that I’ve had the pleasure of playing with throughout my Liberty career, Brown should absolutely be there as well. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this, and a simple explanation from Philly’s front office would be appreciated too.
TLDR: Marquise Brown good
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However, the most egregious of these snubs is RB Marquise Brown. It’s simply absurd not to include him in a list of Philly greats like this. I can’t think of many reasons why one would snub him like this. I assume that since the inaugural class has already been added in, Brown won’t end up in the hall at all. This is insane, since Brown is almost guaranteed to be a first ballot HOFer. I’d like to talk about what makes Brown a Philly great, and why he deserves to be in Philly’s hall.
1. The numbers don’t lie
Brown was drafted with the third pick of the S9 NSFL Draft. He would end up staying down a year in the DSFL with the San Antonio Marshals before moving up in S10 to play in Philly. In his rookie season, Brown broke the single season rushing yardage record with 1902 rushing yards, a number that’s simply impossible to touch now that there are 13 games in a season. Throughout his career in Philly, Brown would rack up 7435 rushing yards (a Liberty franchise record), 56 rushing touchdowns (another franchise record), and 1138 receiving yards, making for a total of 8573 yards from scrimmage. And those are just numbers in his Philly days.
Brown is first all time in career rushing yards with 12587, third all time in rushing touchdowns with 104, and second all time in rushing attempts with 2897. He’s also first all time in scrimmage yards with 15643 (the only other player that comes close is Reg Mackworthy with 15164), and third all-time in total touchdowns with 125. So, I ask of you, with this illustrious career, wouldn’t it make sense for Brown’s number to be at the very least honored by Philly?
Now you could make the argument that the Philly HOF should only consider stats put up while in Philly, which makes sense. But even then, Brown is a franchise record holder in rushing yards and rushing touchdowns, and I’d also assume rushing attempts, but don’t quote me on that. The index is very shotty when it comes to tracking franchise stats.
And when it comes to awards, Brown won an MVP, an OPOY, 3 RBotY awards, an OROY, and appeared in the Pro Bowl 4/5 years in Philly.
2. He trusted the process
When Brown was drafted, the Liberty were in the midst of a massive rebuild. They had just sent out key players like Eli Kamaka in trades for picks and were still getting over the two-week reign of Kolbe as GM (though he netted Philly the picks that would end up drafting Brown and Falconi). The point still stands that during this era, the Liberty were really bad. However, Brown was truly the player that sparked the infamous “process” era in Philly, in which they went 0-14 in S10 to tank for key players. Brown was arguably their only offensive star during S10 and even S11 and made the team enjoyable to watch. In my opinion, Brown should be honored for sticking around throughout this era and publicly rooting for the team, coining the process and the uptick that Philly would end up having later in the decade.
3. The rest of the class
Now, taking a look at the rest of the class, we have QB/CB Tyler Oles, who stuck with the Liberty for 6 seasons, K Stephen Harris who played for 6 as well, TE Paul DiMirio who played for 6, WR Fox North with 7, and QB Adriana Falconi with 8. I think the only argument you could have for Brown not making the Philly HOF would be the number of years he stayed in Philly. However, Brown only played one less year than Oles, DiMirio, and Harris. Out of his 10-year career, that’s half of his time playing in Philly colors.
I’d like to focus on WR Fox North making the class though, since he’s the only skill position player to make it in. While North certainly was consistent, he never won a single WRotY award, OPOY, or MVP. In fact, North has never won a single major award in his career besides being a 4-time pro bowler out of his 7-year career in Philly. Simply looking at the stats between Brown and North tells you all you need to know. How on earth did North make the Philly HOF over Brown as a skill position player?
All in all, it’s preposterous to leave Brown off the Philly HOF and honestly, the Philly front office should be embarrassed. Why make a team HOF when you’re going to leave a player like Brown out of it? Brown is inarguably Philly’s greatest skill position player of all time and deserves a spot on the Philly Cheese Greats list. While I commend the rest of the players that made it in, especially Adriana Falconi, a player that I’ve had the pleasure of playing with throughout my Liberty career, Brown should absolutely be there as well. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this, and a simple explanation from Philly’s front office would be appreciated too.
TLDR: Marquise Brown good
Link to the original post: http://nsfl.jcink.net/index.php?showtopic=19373
[OPTION]Height: 5'10
[OPTION]Weight: 230
[OPTION]Birthplace: Pahokee, FL
[OPTION]Number: 28
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[OPTION]Regular Season Stats
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[OPTION]DSFL
[OPTION]SA S8: 1222 Yards | 264 Att | 15 TDs || 81 Yards | 14 Rec | 0 TDs
[OPTION]SA S9: 1665 Yards | 331 Att | 13 TDs || 92 Yards | 13 Rec | 0 TDs
[OPTION]NSFL
[OPTION]PHI S10: 1902 Yards | 452 Att | 7 TDs || 33 Yards | 6 Rec | 0 TDs
[OPTION]PHI S11: 1571 Yards | 365 Att | 15 TDs || 290 Yards | 52 Rec | 2 TDs
[OPTION]PHI S12: 1555 Yards | 375 Att | 15 TDs || 237 Yards | 30 Rec | 4 TDs
[OPTION]PHI S13: 1510 Yards | 318 Att | 14 TDs || 366 Yards | 39 Rec | 4 TDs
[OPTION]BAL S14: 1578 Yards | 368 Att | 16 TDs || 479 Yards | 62 Rec | 2 TDs
[OPTION]BAL S15: 1577 Yards | 350 Att | 14 TDs || 450 Yards | 59 Rec | 4 TDs
[OPTION]BAL S16: 1172 Yards | 260 Att | 13 TDs || 237 Yards | 31 Rec | 2 TDs
[OPTION]PHI S17: 897 Yards | 215 Att | 5 TDs || 212 Yards | 35 Rec | 2 TDs
[OPTION]CHI S18: 825 Yards | 196 Att | 4 TDs || 752 Yards | 61 Rec | 1 TDs
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[OPTION]Playoff Stats
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[OPTION]DSFL
[OPTION]SA S8: 145 Yards | 25 Att | 0 TDs || 4 Yards | 2 Catches | 0 TDs
[OPTION]SA S9: 71 Yards | 18 Att | 1 TDs || 15 Yards | 3 Catches | 0 TDs
[OPTION]NSFL
[OPTION]PHI S12: 136 Yards | 30 Att | 0 TDs || 27 Yards | 3 Catches | 0 TDs
[OPTION]PHI S13: 93 Yards | 17 Att | 1 TDs || 4 Yards | 1 Catches | 0 TDs
[OPTION]BAL S14: 127 Yards | 25 Att | 2 TDs || 21 Yards | 3 Catches | 0 TDs
[OPTION]BAL S15: 212 Yards | 47 Att | 2 TDS || 64 Yards | 5 Catches | 1 TDs
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[OPTION]Trophy Case/Achievements
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[OPTION]Records:
[OPTION]NSFL Most Rushing Yards In A Single Season (1902) (S10)
[OPTION]NSFL Most Rushing Attempts In A Single Season (452) (S10)
[OPTION]NSFL Most Rushing Yards Of All Time (12587)
[OPTION]NSFL Most Yards From Scrimmage Of All Time (15643)
[OPTION]Awards:
[OPTION]DSFL Offensive Player Of The Year (S8)
[OPTION]DSFL Offensive Player Of The Year (S9)
[OPTION]NSFL Offensive Player Of The Year (S10)
[OPTION]NSFL Offensive Player Of The Year (S13)
[OPTION]NSFL Runningback Of The Year (S12)
[OPTION]NSFL Runningback Of The Year (S13)
[OPTION]NSFL Runningback Of The Year (S14)
[OPTION]NSFL Runningback Of The Year (S15)
[OPTION]NSFL Most Valuable Player (S13)
[OPTION]NSFL Pro Bowl RB (S10)
[OPTION]NSFL Pro Bowl RB (S11)
[OPTION]NSFL Pro Bowl RB (S12)
[OPTION]NSFL Pro Bowl RB (S13)
[OPTION]NSFL Pro Bowl RB (S14)
[OPTION]NSFL Pro Bowl RB (S15)
[OPTION]NSFL Pro Bowl RB (S16)
[OPTION]NSFL Hall of Fame Inductee (S22)
[OPTION]Other:
[OPTION]Drafted 9th Overall In The S8 DSFL Draft To The San Antonio Marshals
[OPTION]Drafted 3rd Overall In The S9 NSFL Draft To The Philadelphia
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