HO Newsletter: S24 Openning

[LimJahey]

Why are we expanding when teams like the Butchers are losing 41-6?

[Fordhammer]

[retrospace111]

you're really worried on realism when we have fucking hexagons and anime characters and frogs playing.

[PMoney]

Everything about this is great news to me EXCEPT that international is highly encouraged (for expansion team. Look: the Royals and Tijuana make some sense, they’re “minor” league after all. Yellowknife makes sense in that it’s Canadian (the actual location itself we won’t go into lmao). More teams in Canada/Mexico wouldn’t be unreasonable to me. BUT, we’ve already seen teams can be cool and unique in the USA (Sarasota, Honolulu, etc).
My biggest concern is getting teams in like, idk, Italy (I love Italy don’t hurt me) or something like that. At that point, it’s just blatant lack of realism to me. Unless you have an entire conference that plays within itself out in Europe (or Asia if you had teams proposed there), it makes 0 sense. I also worry about how some PTs would work for people on those far away international teams (like the, describe your daily life on days without practice, type ones), though that is a lesser concern to me.
TLDR: takes away from the realism and enjoyment to have teams that are ridiculously far away, IMO.

(Also I reiterate once more: good stuff w/ everything HO!)

Run is anti-Moon Knight confirmed

[JPach]

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Everything about this is great news to me EXCEPT that international is highly encouraged (for expansion team. Look: the Royals and Tijuana make some sense, they’re “minor” league after all. Yellowknife makes sense in that it’s Canadian (the actual location itself we won’t go into lmao). More teams in Canada/Mexico wouldn’t be unreasonable to me. BUT, we’ve already seen teams can be cool and unique in the USA (Sarasota, Honolulu, etc).
My biggest concern is getting teams in like, idk, Italy (I love Italy don’t hurt me) or something like that. At that point, it’s just blatant lack of realism to me. Unless you have an entire conference that plays within itself out in Europe (or Asia if you had teams proposed there), it makes 0 sense. I also worry about how some PTs would work for people on those far away international teams (like the, describe your daily life on days without practice, type ones), though that is a lesser concern to me.
TLDR: takes away from the realism and enjoyment to have teams that are ridiculously far away, IMO.

(Also I reiterate once more: good stuff w/ everything HO!)

I agree with my boy run here.

I have multiple times talked about future expansion and that if we want to go international it has to be done in a batch. Like atleast 4 teams. I don't mind seeing international teams becoming a thing perse, it gives us more unique location options without us having to do every huge city in the states or canananda, but having 12 north american teams and then 1 team in europe and 1 in asia would just be kinda wack and feel very odd.

I know getting to the point of having enough players to warrant a 4 team expansion is very unrealisitic, so adding international teams slowly would be the way to go, but it would still be very inbalanced and odd.

Now, Honolulu to Sarasota is 4,687 miles. Sarasota to London is 4,445 miles.

The distance between Honolulu and Baltimore is probably bigger than that.

Honolulu to Tokyo is 3,849 miles

Obviously Honolulu to London is fucking far, Sarasota to Tokyo is also pretty fucking far but is a 12-14 hour flight is already in the league, an 18 hour or 20 hour flight is basically the same thing. You aren't gonna land after a 12 hour flight and hit the field, but maybe you do, you can also land after an 18 hour flight and do the same thing and feel the same way. If Honolulu was allowed in, we can reach a lot of the world as an international conglomerate.

[woelkers]

[Raven]

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Everything about this is great news to me EXCEPT that international is highly encouraged (for expansion team. Look: the Royals and Tijuana make some sense, they’re “minor” league after all. Yellowknife makes sense in that it’s Canadian (the actual location itself we won’t go into lmao). More teams in Canada/Mexico wouldn’t be unreasonable to me. BUT, we’ve already seen teams can be cool and unique in the USA (Sarasota, Honolulu, etc).
My biggest concern is getting teams in like, idk, Italy (I love Italy don’t hurt me) or something like that. At that point, it’s just blatant lack of realism to me. Unless you have an entire conference that plays within itself out in Europe (or Asia if you had teams proposed there), it makes 0 sense. I also worry about how some PTs would work for people on those far away international teams (like the, describe your daily life on days without practice, type ones), though that is a lesser concern to me.
TLDR: takes away from the realism and enjoyment to have teams that are ridiculously far away, IMO.

(Also I reiterate once more: good stuff w/ everything HO!)

I agree with my boy run here.

I have multiple times talked about future expansion and that if we want to go international it has to be done in a batch. Like atleast 4 teams. I don't mind seeing international teams becoming a thing perse, it gives us more unique location options without us having to do every huge city in the states or canananda, but having 12 north american teams and then 1 team in europe and 1 in asia would just be kinda wack and feel very odd.

I know getting to the point of having enough players to warrant a 4 team expansion is very unrealisitic, so adding international teams slowly would be the way to go, but it would still be very inbalanced and odd.

Now, Honolulu to Sarasota is 4,687 miles. Sarasota to London is 4,445 miles.

The distance between Honolulu and Baltimore is probably bigger than that.

Honolulu to Tokyo is 3,849 miles

Obviously Honolulu to London is fucking far, Sarasota to Tokyo is also pretty fucking far but is a 12-14 hour flight is already in the league, an 18 hour or 20 hour flight is basically the same thing. You aren't gonna land after a 12 hour flight and hit the field, but maybe you do, you can also land after an 18 hour flight and do the same thing and feel the same way. If Honolulu was allowed in, we can reach a lot of the world as an international conglomerate.

[ReverendOReily]

you're really worried on realism when we have fucking hexagons and anime characters and frogs playing.

praise be to zamir, the voice of reason during dark times

[Mooty99]

GM players are not required to be taken in the expansion draft, but will count as 0.5 of a player taken. As such, if a team loses 1 expansion GM, they still will lose 2 players through the expansion draft, but if a team loses 2 expansion GMs, only one other player will be able to be taken from that team in the expansion draft.

Not sure I understand this rule when compared to the old system of just receiving an extra protection slot as compensation for losing an expansion GM. With the number of active players per team, that would still allow expansion teams to take 2 players per team (in addition to the GM) but would allow teams to offset the cost of losing a (presumably) incredibly valuable earner/user in an expansion GM by marginally reducing the value of the next player taken from them. This system totally screws teams that only lose 1 expansion GM (presumably a likely outcome).

This is a huge concern. The rest of it all sounds good but the 0.5 makes no sense to me as will weaken some teams more than others, after all  If HO are any good at picking expansion GMs they will likely pick users who are good LR presents, WR members and max earners, and so likely players who trams would normally protect.

[run_CMC]

you're really worried on realism when we have fucking hexagons and anime characters and frogs playing.

I can ignore the render of my team’s QB or smth. Harder to ignore if the team I play for is in Milan or the like

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Everything about this is great news to me EXCEPT that international is highly encouraged (for expansion team. Look: the Royals and Tijuana make some sense, they’re “minor” league after all. Yellowknife makes sense in that it’s Canadian (the actual location itself we won’t go into lmao). More teams in Canada/Mexico wouldn’t be unreasonable to me. BUT, we’ve already seen teams can be cool and unique in the USA (Sarasota, Honolulu, etc).
My biggest concern is getting teams in like, idk, Italy (I love Italy don’t hurt me) or something like that. At that point, it’s just blatant lack of realism to me. Unless you have an entire conference that plays within itself out in Europe (or Asia if you had teams proposed there), it makes 0 sense. I also worry about how some PTs would work for people on those far away international teams (like the, describe your daily life on days without practice, type ones), though that is a lesser concern to me.
TLDR: takes away from the realism and enjoyment to have teams that are ridiculously far away, IMO.

(Also I reiterate once more: good stuff w/ everything HO!)

I agree with my boy run here.

I have multiple times talked about future expansion and that if we want to go international it has to be done in a batch. Like atleast 4 teams. I don't mind seeing international teams becoming a thing perse, it gives us more unique location options without us having to do every huge city in the states or canananda, but having 12 north american teams and then 1 team in europe and 1 in asia would just be kinda wack and feel very odd.

I know getting to the point of having enough players to warrant a 4 team expansion is very unrealisitic, so adding international teams slowly would be the way to go, but it would still be very inbalanced and odd.

Now, Honolulu to Sarasota is 4,687 miles. Sarasota to London is 4,445 miles.

The distance between Honolulu and Baltimore is probably bigger than that.

Honolulu to Tokyo is 3,849 miles

Obviously Honolulu to London is fucking far, Sarasota to Tokyo is also pretty fucking far but is a 12-14 hour flight is already in the league, an 18 hour or 20 hour flight is basically the same thing. You aren't gonna land after a 12 hour flight and hit the field, but maybe you do, you can also land after an 18 hour flight and do the same thing and feel the same way. If Honolulu was allowed in, we can reach a lot of the world as an international conglomerate.

Honolulu only plays each out of conference team once per season, and Sarasota doesn’t play the Royals. (Also bruh 12 hours terrible but 18 a NIGHTMARE)
I’m with Raven; if we have a whole third conference of international teams from a region, that seems gucci to me. But how far are we from being able to have a while third conference I wonder?