This really fucks San Jose, hopefully the return they get is good but man that's rough and doing it publicly just forces their hand more. For somebody who says they don't want to hurt the franchise, this does just that.
Big news oh boy, San Jose's offense is gonna feel this one hard but hopefully they got a solid return. Garden and Cook will be insane should they play together, that would be a scary offense.
(08-15-2017, 06:35 PM)RavensFanFromOntario Wrote:This really fucks San Jose, hopefully the return they get is good but man that's rough and doing it publicly just forces their hand more. For somebody who says they don't want to hurt the franchise, this does just that.
Well I want out. Doing it privately doesn't force any hand.
FYI, I did do it privately. And Royal even stated that he knew I would request a trade when Deusolis was traded.
Trust me, I want them to get a solid return. I know my value.
What would happen if San Jose just declines your desire? What leverage do you really have to pull this off? What precedent does this set for any other player? I mean do as you like, but if I were San Jose, I'd basically tell you to chill and play out your contract. You're a S1 player, you only have 1 year left on your rookie contract, that's what, another month in real time. After S3, you're a FA and you can go where you like. You being a Sabercat clearly hasn't stopped you being friends with them before, it really shouldn't going forward either.
(08-15-2017, 06:43 PM)RedCydranth Wrote:What would happen if San Jose just declines your desire? What leverage do you really have to pull this off? What precedent does this set for any other player? I mean do as you like, but if I were San Jose, I'd basically tell you to chill and play out your contract. You're a S1 player, you only have 1 year left on your rookie contract, that's what, another month in real time. After S3, you're a FA and you can go where you like. You being a Sabercat clearly hasn't stopped you being friends with them before, it really shouldn't going forward either.
It's more about playing for a different team. Of course we're still friends, that is a very minimal point.
Royal doesn't have to do anything, but they are a franchise in need of shakeup and letting me walk after S3 does them ZERO good, whereas getting a primetime player/picks for me does them a lot of good
(08-15-2017, 04:48 PM)RainDelay Wrote:It's more about playing for a different team. Of course we're still friends, that is a very minimal point.
Royal doesn't have to do anything, but they are a franchise in need of shakeup and letting me walk after S3 does them ZERO good, whereas getting a primetime player/picks for me does them a lot of good
Yeah, something is definitely better than nothing. I wonder what your value is, though. WR is a pretty stacked position, even with you being one of the best. And potentially only having you for 5 games is a scary prospect. I hope the Wraiths take that risk, but it's one of those things that make me glad I'm not a GM.
08-15-2017, 06:56 PM (This post was last modified: 08-15-2017, 06:56 PM by RainDelay.)
(08-15-2017, 06:55 PM)kckolbe Wrote:Yeah, something is definitely better than nothing. I wonder what your value is, though. WR is a pretty stacked position, even with you being one of the best. And potentially only having you for 5 games is a scary prospect. I hope the Wraiths take that risk, but it's one of those things that make me glad I'm not a GM.
I'm under contract S3 as well, and y'all are my top destination for a reason. Extension looks likely.
But you have to think of the implications elsewhere. Let's say you do get this trade to Yellowkife. You're an active player with a lot of TPE. Arguably one of the best WRs in the game. You're basically not only asking San Jose to give up a player with tremendous TPE, but you're asking one or more players on the Wraiths to upend their happiness there to acquiesce your personal desire for happiness. There's no way that San Jose will take a bunch of inactives in exchange, or picks for players who have zero guarantee they're going to be active. I just think it's a selfish move to expect active players who are in Yellowknife to move to San Jose, and going from a team who is in a position to make playoffs and possibly the Ultimus Cup to a San Jose team who is sinking fast.
(08-15-2017, 07:04 PM)RedCydranth Wrote:But you have to think of the implications elsewhere. Let's say you do get this trade to Yellowkife. You're an active player with a lot of TPE. Arguably one of the best WRs in the game. You're basically not only asking San Jose to give up a player with tremendous TPE, but you're asking one or more players on the Wraiths to upend their happiness there to acquiesce your personal desire for happiness. There's no way that San Jose will take a bunch of inactives in exchange, or picks for players who have zero guarantee they're going to be active. I just think it's a selfish move to expect active players who are in Yellowknife to move to San Jose, and going from a team who is in a position to make playoffs and possibly the Ultimus Cup to a San Jose team who is sinking fast.
(08-15-2017, 04:56 PM)RainDelay Wrote:I'm under contract S3 as well, and y'all are my top destination for a reason. Extension looks likely.
Jiggly knows I'm the LAST guy to call collusion but how in the actual fuck does this not mean that?
Player A plays for Team A.
Player A is under contract with Team A.
Player A requests trade to Team B or C.
Player A is still under contract with Team A.
Player A admits to wanting to sign extension with Team B.
League rewrites collusion rules because NOBODY FOLLOWS THEM AND THE COMMISH'S TEAM JUST VIOLATED THE RULE.