(09-09-2017, 02:27 AM)RedCydranth Wrote:Because the Liberty could have taken Rove at Rd. 3 Pick 1 (17 overall) and gotten better value at 11.
The Sabercats couldn't have taken Blewitt with their next pick because their next pick was Round 3 Pick 5 (21 overall).
Both teams reached for a player. One took a player they HAD to reach for, the other did not.
If you look at the 5 picks between the 2 Liberty picks, 3 were Outlaws. They're not replacing Bronko any time soon. Otters have Boss, best QB in the league (arguably with Orosz) and the Wraiths have the aforementioned Orosz. So, reaching for the QB was the foolish move there.
The Outlaws having 3 picks before our next pick is exactly why we took Rove at 11. ADwyer is the best GM in the league. When a team, like the Outlaws, has no holes, sometimes the best move is take a player that your best competition needs. We thought the Outlaws would take Rove just to keep us from getting the best QB in the draft and thus making it harder to beat them.
We'll never know if ADwyer would have made that move, but Id bet Clifford Rove not on our team would give the Outlaws a better chance to win the Ultimius than having Charlie Law on their team.
(09-09-2017, 08:28 AM)adam2552 Wrote:The Outlaws having 3 picks before our next pick is exactly why we took Rove at 11. ADwyer is the best GM in the league. When a team, like the Outlaws, has no holes, sometimes the best move is take a player that your best competition needs. We thought the Outlaws would take Rove just to keep us from getting the best QB in the draft and thus making it harder to beat them.
We'll never know if ADwyer would have made that move, but Id bet Clifford Rove not on our team would give the Outlaws a better chance to win the Ultimius than having Charlie Law on their team.
TBH I dont think cliffard rove is gonna do shit. Hes throwing more INTs than TDs this year.
(09-09-2017, 10:59 AM)DeathOnReddit Wrote:TBH I dont think cliffard rove is gonna do shit. Hes throwing more INTs than TDs this year.
Rove's QB stats are already better than Christ's, and he had 13 TDs to 10 INTs. The OL is already better as well as the targets. Sure most the defenses are better too but there's really no reason to think that Rove will go all Bercovici on us
(09-09-2017, 04:40 AM)RedCydranth Wrote:You're saying Blewitt would have fallen all the way to Round 3. Even though the Otters needed a kicker, badly (and he's an upgrade to Sims. Just because Sims says he'll only play for OC doesn't mean we'd not take a better option). The Legion could pick him up at 18. San Jose didn't know if you guys would take him at 11. There's more need for Kicker between 5 and 21 than there were need for QB between 11 and 17. The only one saying you made the right choice is you. Look, if Rove turns out to be your guy, that's awesome. I hope he does. But taking him there was ill advised. You did it, you're proud of it. I don't even blame you for standing by it. But you at least have to see why we all think it's a reach. I'll openly admit Burnsman was a reach for the Otters since RB wasn't a pressing need, but I'll still stand by it because he's a great person and he's going to be a great player. We could have addressed DT by taking Chambers or OL with Archetype. But we took a bit of a reach on a guy we liked. Reaches happen, but don't expect them to be graded highly.
With other needs still on the board Blewitt stays there until their next pick. There's also the chance that the Outlaws, or some other team, takes him to switch him to a different position, but right now I don't think that he goes before their next pick. Y'all can talk bad about the Rove pick all you want, but those 3 teams between the Liberty picks all had reason to take him, as they can move his position. There was also the chance that another team trades up to get Rove, and do whatever their plan was. He is an active player who is constantly getting better, there is reason to take him at that pick, even if it does seem like a reach at the time.
So as one of the GMs who made the Rove decision, we were between him or William Ridley (MacTonight). The Outlaws had a lot of picks, and very few (none?) holes to fill. What better way to take a shot in the dark than to grab the best QB and fuck Liberty out of a decent season? We thought "What am I willing to miss on here?"
We can survive without a 4th LB for a year, but if we don't have a good, active QB in the locker room at the beginning of this season, we're not going to be able to take the next step offensively for at least one more season. Christ is inactive, Brady is inactive. So many passes off target (hard to be intercepted when the ball is nowhere near anyone, including the defense). We NEEDED a strong QB, so we pulled the trigger.
Turns out, that worked out great, because we were able to trade up for another 3rd and grab both Ridley and our planned OL Meowls at that point. Feels good. Liberty lockerroom was like: :dj:
(09-09-2017, 06:28 AM)adam2552 Wrote:The Outlaws having 3 picks before our next pick is exactly why we took Rove at 11. ADwyer is the best GM in the league. When a team, like the Outlaws, has no holes, sometimes the best move is take a player that your best competition needs. We thought the Outlaws would take Rove just to keep us from getting the best QB in the draft and thus making it harder to beat them.
We'll never know if ADwyer would have made that move, but Id bet Clifford Rove not on our team would give the Outlaws a better chance to win the Ultimius than having Charlie Law on their team.
would you prefer me to lay down so as to kick me better?