(07-18-2021, 09:11 PM)Oles Wrote:I gotta throw you some love here, man. Knowing how long you’ve been around (I feel old and I’ve only been here since S11), I give a lot of respect for sticking up for Jiggs like this. I’ve had my own fair share of experiences with him here and in other leagues and can honestly say none of them have been “bad”. The two days that I was his “co-GM” in Chicago after the so-called Communist Revolution could have probably been handled better, but that was on all of us in the War Room at the time. You would never know it though, since every thing I’ve ever heard about that situation was that “Jiggly tried to take over Chicago” or “that weird guy is causing problems again”. There was a lot of shit that was worse by far than that. Everywhere I’ve been that he has also (OCO, Chicago, and the Crabs in PBE) he’s been nothing but a good dude. Yeah, he gets stressed easily and sometimes that comes across poorly with other people. He does have to own some of what has happened to him, but no where near as much as he gets.(07-18-2021, 01:38 AM)DeadlyPlayer Wrote:(07-18-2021, 12:56 AM)DeadlyPlayer Wrote: yeah nah, should anyone be bullied no. Did he also make multiple people uncomfortable and throw himself into the middle of drama? Yes. Does he deserve a fresh start? Not my
Listen, if I had my way, I would have no problem with a new account and no one knowing. But the way Oles was really trying to whitewash the history was a little upsetting. I fully believe in you as a user. I enjoyed our limited interactions as takamori.
I'm gonna say this loud and clear, so there is no confusion. I watched Jiggly first hand get bullied and harassed to his face and to his back, in chats he was never in, and in chats where he could simply ask a question. I am stating my experiences and what I've seen happen regarding his name. You can absolutely go into any chat and find unsolicited Jiggly hate, and you can talk to a lot of past and present users who hate jiggly simply because of their locker room and never once interacted with jiggly. People who have been here for half of the time I have, and have seen even less of what jiggly has gone through need to stop stating that I'm white washing history, especially if I'm referencing history that you were not present for. Yes, jiggly has done his fair share of things that can rub people the wrong way, and yes, his reputation has had some issues because of his actions, but when one of the first things you hear when you join a league in season 2 is to avoid someone named jiggly, and that he's a weird dude and that OCO (who had jiggly at the time) was worse off because of having him on the team, it sticks. Jiggly's reputation has had major issues because people do not let go, and people constantly perpetuate the harassment and bullying. I saw it when I first joined the league, when I was a DSFL gm, when I was an ISFL gm, when I was running the entire DSFL, and everything since, instead of worrying about whether I'm white washing history, focus on making the league a better place for people so that we don't have another situation like jiggly where he can do no right no matter what.