09-04-2023, 05:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-04-2023, 11:24 PM by Eldorian. Edited 1 time in total.)
I am asking for arbitration on this submission:
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...#pid722141
The original grade was 3.5/5 for 3M but then was removed because AI generation was used.
I would like to point out 2 things about this though -
1. My submission was on August 10th. The rules posted that took affect for August 7th were posted here - please note there is NOTHING there about using AI:
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...?tid=46907
The rules on the graphic area of the forum were then posted on August 19th with the added note about banning the use of AI
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...?tid=47083
I would like to note that the AI rules did not exist on August 10th of my submission and were submitted a full 9 days later.
2. Only the player itself was rendered using AI. Everything else I did to the image was edited by me. In fact, this graphic I did here that was graded 2/5 I did the EXACT SAME WORK to prove a point. The only difference is I took an image I googled on the internet vs. an image I took from AI. On both images I removed the logo from the helmet, added a fading some fading to the image and then added the text and changed the background completely. So I am willing to say that this image I am asking to be arbitrated be graded as a 2/5 worth 800K like my other image I did here:
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...#pid726901
I will also argue that process using an AI rendered player took longer to do than just doing a quick "Chris Jones" image search on Google. The player image took me 30 seconds to find what I wanted to use, where as the creating of the AI rendered player took roughly 20 minutes.
I would also ask that the AI rule be re-looked at because while I understand that submitting something to an AI bot like this and submitting it as is would be crazy to expect some kind of payout - using it to create something and then edit it like literally everything else people do here should be allowed in some capacity. It is no different than googling "Chris Jones" on an image search or using some other form of media from the internet to create with. Not only that, but Photoshop has AI generation in it's tool itself now and is being expanded on. It is a tool like everything else.
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...#pid722141
The original grade was 3.5/5 for 3M but then was removed because AI generation was used.
I would like to point out 2 things about this though -
1. My submission was on August 10th. The rules posted that took affect for August 7th were posted here - please note there is NOTHING there about using AI:
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...?tid=46907
The rules on the graphic area of the forum were then posted on August 19th with the added note about banning the use of AI
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...?tid=47083
I would like to note that the AI rules did not exist on August 10th of my submission and were submitted a full 9 days later.
2. Only the player itself was rendered using AI. Everything else I did to the image was edited by me. In fact, this graphic I did here that was graded 2/5 I did the EXACT SAME WORK to prove a point. The only difference is I took an image I googled on the internet vs. an image I took from AI. On both images I removed the logo from the helmet, added a fading some fading to the image and then added the text and changed the background completely. So I am willing to say that this image I am asking to be arbitrated be graded as a 2/5 worth 800K like my other image I did here:
https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...#pid726901
I will also argue that process using an AI rendered player took longer to do than just doing a quick "Chris Jones" image search on Google. The player image took me 30 seconds to find what I wanted to use, where as the creating of the AI rendered player took roughly 20 minutes.
I would also ask that the AI rule be re-looked at because while I understand that submitting something to an AI bot like this and submitting it as is would be crazy to expect some kind of payout - using it to create something and then edit it like literally everything else people do here should be allowed in some capacity. It is no different than googling "Chris Jones" on an image search or using some other form of media from the internet to create with. Not only that, but Photoshop has AI generation in it's tool itself now and is being expanded on. It is a tool like everything else.