(04-26-2022, 08:37 AM)g2019 Wrote: Add a league job for Awards Auditor or something
This.
I've been saying this since the stream ended last night. Give us an Awards Auditor, as awards are a ton of work and instead of piling another thing on the committee or Infinite, let the responsibility fall on someone elses shoulders.
(04-25-2022, 09:53 PM)infinitempg Wrote: Also, and this is off topic from the current discussion, but we need to have a discussion about MOP. A solid 32% of the ISFL MOP votes went to players who received a total of 1 or 2 votes. The two winners combined for a vote share of 22%. The top 5 vote recipients make up only 46% of votes. DSFL is similar - the winner only received 15.5% of the vote, top 2 combined for 25%, and the top 5 made up 40.5% of all votes. Players with 2 and 1 votes received made up 24.5% of votes.
People said that it would be taken seriously and not memed and I’m not convinced this is evidence for that. Perhaps my hunch was right about MOP and the decision to shut it down all those years ago was right.
(04-25-2022, 10:04 PM)Pvtpenne Wrote: Regarding MOP, I don't think the distribution of votes is very surprising. Given that it is a TPE task most active users are going to do it whether or not they even look at a stat sheet at the end of the season. All that said, I still think the award winner will be (and was) accurate.
The award winner is generally accurate because about 40-50% of the userbase actually does take it seriously. A moderately organized meme campaign could definitely override 22 votes though. We've seen it before when
(04-26-2022, 02:44 PM)Raven Wrote: Beat Meoff
would have won if Dwyer and I didn't shut it down.
This is the tally of the last 3 MOP votes, all the votes we've had since it came back:
S33 was by far the best year, with it approaching 50% of voters taking it relatively seriously. The winners also took the most vote share. The meme vote remains steady, however - with DSFL hovering around 23% and ISFL hovering around 30% through the three years. (This to me is shocking, by the way.)
The top 5 numbers are atrocious. Only once in six tries do we cross the halfway point - in the "best" S33 vote. In fact, if we extend this to the top 10 (and I don't think you can consider more than 10 serious candidates for MVP), we get about 60% in S32 and S34 and about 67% in S33 across both leagues. This means that 1/3 of the votes were not serious or memes.
And this doesn't even account for semi-serious meme campaigns. In S32, Lane Frost (#11 in Rec Yds, #12 in Catches, #15 in YPC, and with only 2 Rec TD) tied for 5th place (6/143 votes), and this was without any organized meme campaign. (This is why I only included 4 nominees on that slide, by the way.) Between 6 votes being enough to be tied for 5th and the fact that a meme candidate got 5th, we're already in trouble. Add on that only 10 people (just 7% of the voters!) would have needed to flip their vote to have him win and we are looking at serious issues. I think it can be argued that a single team deciding to all vote for one player could easily push them near the top.
Perhaps if we want users to take MOP seriously, we should make it a 3 TPE requirement, where 1 of the TPE is for voting and 2 are for an actual, 100 word explanation. Then it can earn its spot at the end of the awards ceremony. Or, we treat it as the fan vote that it is and deprioritize it and possibly even remove it from the awards show. Or we just trash it as the failed 80's revival show that it is.