03-21-2023, 01:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2023, 05:15 PM by xenosthelegend. Edited 2 times in total.)
This is going to be more of a “sim universe” kind of media, but it’ll focus on ISFL too and I need money in ISFL, so you get the media ?
In terms of the big connections here, between PBE, ISFL, and SHL, I’m now onto 11 players across the 3 leagues. I first joined the SHL in December of 2016 - considering I joined the SHL first, it’s actually interesting to me that I’m only on player #3 there, while in both PBE and ISFL I’m onto player #4.
The idea for this article came to me as I realized that my current SHL player was approaching my all time peak for TPE earned across all the leagues. I wasn’t sure exactly where that peak was, so I started to look at all my players to see where they ranked in the list of highest TPE.
It’s been a couple weeks since I first had the idea, so my current SHL player of Kinsinger has long since crossed into the #1 spot for my peak TPE. He’s also well on the way to breaking the 2K mark, as I’ve got a full season to get there before I regress.
Figuring out some of the numbers on here was a little tricky, especially max TPE per season, because it’s changed a lot over the seasons. Minor leagues also didn’t exist for some of these players, so there was no pre-draft season. ISFL has quite a short window before regression, and with no DSFL, Weston only had 7 seasons to reach his peak. PBE and SHL now get 10 seasons to reach that peak (1 pre-draft season + 9 seasons before regression). I knew ISFL players could never compete in absolute peak TPE, which is why I also calculated TPE per season.
We’ll start off with Turnbull I guess. My current ISFL player, on pace to be my best TPE earner in this league. As long as I keep things up, he’ll surpass Dolls for the highest pure peak TPE among my ISFL players. He’s also already well on pace to be my best TPE per season player in the ISFL. Kind of why I’m writing this now I need the money to keep up that earning for him. He’s in an interesting place in the list, with the players around him, and the TPE per season group he’s in.
For Kinsinger, he’s my current SHL player. I picked up an updater job early on in his career, so I’ve had lots of SHL cash, and I’ve been able to easily keep up max earning on equipment, training, everything with no troubles. Fairborn was a similar story in the PBE. He’s a few players past, but I got a job as Head Office in PBE when he was my player. I had plenty of cash, I could afford everything I needed, and so I could max earn with all my equipment. Those 2 players are fairly unique in that sense, in terms of which job I had at the time, and my ability to max earn.
Turnbull also somewhat falls into that category. I’ve been streaming DSFL for most of his career, but between contract valuation differences and the cost of equipment, it’s not as… bolstering as the jobs in the other leagues.
As an updater in SHL, I’m making 20 mil in a season doing a lot of work. Equipment there is only 8.5 million. I’ve been doing it for 6 or 7 seasons now I think, so even with training as well, my bank is continuing to grow, and I don’t have to worry about being able to afford equipment right away. My contract there is at my TPE minimum, but it’s 6 million. PBE was similar. Equipment was expensive, but my PBE contract would be 8 mil+ at my TPE minimum. My HO job would pay 12-15 mil I think? Equipment costs 18 mil there so it is offset a bit.
With ISFL, my streaming job has basically been paying just enough to afford equipment at the very end of each season. I haven’t bought my S40 equipment for Turnbull yet. My contract is only 1 mil this season, so it’s harder to keep up earning here. While I’m in a similar position in terms of job stability to earn in ISFL, I’m not matching quite that same TPE per season that I make with Kinsinger and did with Fairborn.
The next group which is around the same TPE per season as Turnbull are my 2 GM players. I was a GM during my first player in the SHL, Chris York. Towards the end of his peak, I was already peaking in terms of performance, and it was about making the team better. I focused a lot of my energy on that, and didn’t have the same energy for earning towards those final couple peak seasons. It’s pretty much the same story with Dani Gonzalez, who was my player while I was a GM in the PBE. I put more energy on the team performing, and didn’t have that energy to absolutely max earn all the time. You’ll see the difference in peak between York and Kinsinger and Dani and Fairborn is almost the same, a little less than 200 TPE (it will be once Kinsinger reaches his true peak at the end of the season).
Turnbull’s earning matches that level, even though I’m not a GM here. Most of that is I think just a slightly lower interest when I first started his career. I don’t think I bought T6 equipment until maybe the 3rd season of Turnbull’s career. I also had no idea fantasy paid out TPE to the winners. I think by the time he gets to his peak, he will probably have carved out his own little niche in my players’ history.
The next player in their own little tier is Byron Dolls - my ISFL offensive lineman. I think it’s safe to say he was part of the “OL renaissance”, drafted in S22. Out of all my 11 players, I only have 2 players in the hall of fame, and Dolls is one of them. For the most part with his career, I earned fairly well, but not max. I couldn’t afford max equipment very much. It was only when I was just approaching his peak that I took the ISFL streamer job. I held that job for S27 and S28, which paid me well for that time, but that was only the last couple of seasons of Dolls’ peak. So his overall peak isn’t amazing, and his TPE per season is only 120. He is currently my only ISFL player to surpass the 1000 TPE mark. Hopefully Turnbull will hit that - he’s well on pace for it, and I certainly have no plans to stop earning any time soon.
Then we start to get to the slowpokes. The ones lagging behind. The only other player currently above the 100 TPE per season threshold is Mason Williams, my currently active PBE player. I built up a pretty good bank between Fairborn and Dani, with my job as HO and GM, in combination with my contract, paying way more than I needed to sustain a career. Williams has absolutely been coasting on that bank so far. He should be able to coast for his whole career, as I’ll start bringing in big contracts before my bank truly runs dry. It might only be regression where I start running out of funds. That coasting has also been my overall attitude towards him. I skip PTs sometimes, I miss weeks. I’m not as invested as on previous players, or on my other league’s active players.
Veccelli was very similar to Williams, in that he was a follow up player, who could mostly just coast on a big bank. I did that, and eventually I went mostly inactive. That bank ran out of money, and I couldn’t just coast on a max earner. So he pretty much died off towards the tail end of his career. I was able to at least use the cash from his contracts that I wasn’t spending to give Kinsinger a bit of a cushion at the start.
Now the 2 S1 players. I’ve been both here and in the PBE since S1, though I did take a few seasons off without a player in the ISFL in the mid S30s.
Both players had very similar situations for me. At the time, I was still pretty new to sim leagues. These leagues started less than a year after I’d first joined the SHL. But, by the time the leagues had started, I was an SHL GM. PT affiliation didn’t exist at that time, money was obviously starting from scratch. Even though I was in college at the time, I didn’t have all the time & energy in the world. It wasn’t easy to earn well across the 3 leagues, for me anyway. I was also in SBA and GOMHL at the same time, I think. So, they were very middling earners, but they were S1 players and so they did still get some benefits of good opportunities. Marcos was one of the best defensive center fielders of all time, and Weston was a dominant returner and a damn good receiver.
That leaves poor old Luke Smyles at the bottom of the list, lol. He was my recreate here, but because I didn’t earn that much with Weston, and I pushed Weston into regression for a decent while (he played 11 seasons), I didn’t have any kind of big bank built up for Smyles. This is actually fairly similar to both Fairborn and Kinsinger - who are my top 2 TPE earners, ever. Should have been a pretty good spot for Smyles to prosper. I created Smyles and Fairborn only a few months apart. I don’t really know what it was that made Smyles’ career never really take off. I was big in the EFL at that time, I was still in the SBA, I was still winding down my career in the SHL with York, I was GMing still. Fairborn at creation didn’t take off either, and it wasn’t until I took on a few jobs in PBE and started to get more involved that he really took off. That never happened for Smyles, I just never had the desire to get heavily involved in ISFL jobs. Even with Dolls I only got in a little bit. I don’t know. Smyles should have had a good chance at success, but he is by far my worst player.
I didn’t check all their player stats to compare who is best in the game, but I did take a look at my championships & hall of fame players.
Out of 11 players, I only have 2 hall of fame players. Now granted, 3 of those are still active players, and 1 is still pending eligibility. So only really 7 players who could have been in the hall. I have 1 each in the SHL and the ISFL, Chris York and Byron Dolls. I still believe Weston was deserving of the hall. Ironically, where the ISFL has been my least invested league, it’s produced some of my best players statistically. Dolls in the hall, Weston deserving (IMO), Turnbull I have hopes for. PBE has only had 2 players eligible, and Fairborn had an absolutely wild career, switching back and forth between starter and reliever, playing for 3 different teams, and was traded twice. And Marcos, who was good at 1 thing, and very good at it, but it’s not that spectacular or valuable to baseball voters. Neither of them made the hall, and maybe Fairborn could argue an edge case because his peaks were elite, but he shifted around so much that there were plenty of adjustment periods. I don’t think either really deserved it. Dani likely won’t make it either when she’s eligible. She was a very strong batter for her archetype & position, but it ultimately wasn’t anything spectacular aside from 1 season. She was supposed to be defensively minded, but wasn’t even really that as she didn’t do much to stand out. In SHL Veccelli was way too bad to ever be considered for the hall, and York made it. Kinsinger is my active player, with plenty of career left, so we’ll see if he ever makes it. If I’m lucky I’ll win the best offensive defenseman of the year award, and if I’m really lucky I’ll be there to see Winnipeg win a championship. Speaking of…
Ironically, while I would say overall my ISFL players have been the most successful statistically, none of them have ever won a championship. I’ve won 7 total championships across 11 players, and if you consider 0 of those are on my 4 ISFL players, I have… 7 championships across 7 players. That is carried mostly by Marcos, who won 3 straight as part of the original PBE dynasty, joining midway through the Vandals streak. York and Veccelli in the SHL both won a championship, and both won them as rookies. Fairborn was a part of the Utah team that won the first ever championship by an expansion team. Kinsinger hasn’t won one, and while Winnipeg is still the best team in the league, nothing is guaranteed. Dani never won one in the PBE, being tied to my expansion team as a GM. We only made the playoffs once, and were swept.
My ISFL players never won, and only once have any of them even really been close. Weston never even played in an Ultimus, struggling to get out of an ASFC with the Outlaws in the midst of the biggest scandal in league history, and the perennially competitive Otters. Smyles played in 4 Ultimuses - ironically, losing to the Sabercats (Weston’s only team) in their first championship - once with Philadelphia and thrice with the Wraiths, in the first 3 of their 4 consecutive losses from S18-S21. Dolls made 1 Ultimus appearance, with the Fire Salamanders in S29. Turnbull has yet to make the Ultimus, but I hope there’s a shining championship light at the end of Baltimore’s rebuild. Dolls lost by 20, Smyles lost by 12, 6, 3, and 17. The 3 point loss was the best chance to win, as the Wraiths gave up the winning TD to the Otters with 2:22 left in the game.
So anyway, that’s the tale of my sim league players. I didn’t touch on my old EFL, SBA, GOMHL, VHL, etc players, since they are much harder to track down, and those leagues are functionally quite different.
Kinsinger is my highest TPE player of all time, I will cross the 2000 TPE mark this season. But Turnbull looks like he’ll certainly make a run for my highest TPE player in the ISFL. I’m gonna do my best to keep up that pace. I’m not sure what a good goal will be, but I think I might be able to hit 1200. I don’t think 1500 is a possibility. If I’m lucky, I’ll also check that missing championship off the list with him as well.
If you took the time to read all this about my history, thanks.
In terms of the big connections here, between PBE, ISFL, and SHL, I’m now onto 11 players across the 3 leagues. I first joined the SHL in December of 2016 - considering I joined the SHL first, it’s actually interesting to me that I’m only on player #3 there, while in both PBE and ISFL I’m onto player #4.
The idea for this article came to me as I realized that my current SHL player was approaching my all time peak for TPE earned across all the leagues. I wasn’t sure exactly where that peak was, so I started to look at all my players to see where they ranked in the list of highest TPE.
It’s been a couple weeks since I first had the idea, so my current SHL player of Kinsinger has long since crossed into the #1 spot for my peak TPE. He’s also well on the way to breaking the 2K mark, as I’ve got a full season to get there before I regress.
Figuring out some of the numbers on here was a little tricky, especially max TPE per season, because it’s changed a lot over the seasons. Minor leagues also didn’t exist for some of these players, so there was no pre-draft season. ISFL has quite a short window before regression, and with no DSFL, Weston only had 7 seasons to reach his peak. PBE and SHL now get 10 seasons to reach that peak (1 pre-draft season + 9 seasons before regression). I knew ISFL players could never compete in absolute peak TPE, which is why I also calculated TPE per season.
We’ll start off with Turnbull I guess. My current ISFL player, on pace to be my best TPE earner in this league. As long as I keep things up, he’ll surpass Dolls for the highest pure peak TPE among my ISFL players. He’s also already well on pace to be my best TPE per season player in the ISFL. Kind of why I’m writing this now I need the money to keep up that earning for him. He’s in an interesting place in the list, with the players around him, and the TPE per season group he’s in.
For Kinsinger, he’s my current SHL player. I picked up an updater job early on in his career, so I’ve had lots of SHL cash, and I’ve been able to easily keep up max earning on equipment, training, everything with no troubles. Fairborn was a similar story in the PBE. He’s a few players past, but I got a job as Head Office in PBE when he was my player. I had plenty of cash, I could afford everything I needed, and so I could max earn with all my equipment. Those 2 players are fairly unique in that sense, in terms of which job I had at the time, and my ability to max earn.
Turnbull also somewhat falls into that category. I’ve been streaming DSFL for most of his career, but between contract valuation differences and the cost of equipment, it’s not as… bolstering as the jobs in the other leagues.
As an updater in SHL, I’m making 20 mil in a season doing a lot of work. Equipment there is only 8.5 million. I’ve been doing it for 6 or 7 seasons now I think, so even with training as well, my bank is continuing to grow, and I don’t have to worry about being able to afford equipment right away. My contract there is at my TPE minimum, but it’s 6 million. PBE was similar. Equipment was expensive, but my PBE contract would be 8 mil+ at my TPE minimum. My HO job would pay 12-15 mil I think? Equipment costs 18 mil there so it is offset a bit.
With ISFL, my streaming job has basically been paying just enough to afford equipment at the very end of each season. I haven’t bought my S40 equipment for Turnbull yet. My contract is only 1 mil this season, so it’s harder to keep up earning here. While I’m in a similar position in terms of job stability to earn in ISFL, I’m not matching quite that same TPE per season that I make with Kinsinger and did with Fairborn.
The next group which is around the same TPE per season as Turnbull are my 2 GM players. I was a GM during my first player in the SHL, Chris York. Towards the end of his peak, I was already peaking in terms of performance, and it was about making the team better. I focused a lot of my energy on that, and didn’t have the same energy for earning towards those final couple peak seasons. It’s pretty much the same story with Dani Gonzalez, who was my player while I was a GM in the PBE. I put more energy on the team performing, and didn’t have that energy to absolutely max earn all the time. You’ll see the difference in peak between York and Kinsinger and Dani and Fairborn is almost the same, a little less than 200 TPE (it will be once Kinsinger reaches his true peak at the end of the season).
Turnbull’s earning matches that level, even though I’m not a GM here. Most of that is I think just a slightly lower interest when I first started his career. I don’t think I bought T6 equipment until maybe the 3rd season of Turnbull’s career. I also had no idea fantasy paid out TPE to the winners. I think by the time he gets to his peak, he will probably have carved out his own little niche in my players’ history.
The next player in their own little tier is Byron Dolls - my ISFL offensive lineman. I think it’s safe to say he was part of the “OL renaissance”, drafted in S22. Out of all my 11 players, I only have 2 players in the hall of fame, and Dolls is one of them. For the most part with his career, I earned fairly well, but not max. I couldn’t afford max equipment very much. It was only when I was just approaching his peak that I took the ISFL streamer job. I held that job for S27 and S28, which paid me well for that time, but that was only the last couple of seasons of Dolls’ peak. So his overall peak isn’t amazing, and his TPE per season is only 120. He is currently my only ISFL player to surpass the 1000 TPE mark. Hopefully Turnbull will hit that - he’s well on pace for it, and I certainly have no plans to stop earning any time soon.
Then we start to get to the slowpokes. The ones lagging behind. The only other player currently above the 100 TPE per season threshold is Mason Williams, my currently active PBE player. I built up a pretty good bank between Fairborn and Dani, with my job as HO and GM, in combination with my contract, paying way more than I needed to sustain a career. Williams has absolutely been coasting on that bank so far. He should be able to coast for his whole career, as I’ll start bringing in big contracts before my bank truly runs dry. It might only be regression where I start running out of funds. That coasting has also been my overall attitude towards him. I skip PTs sometimes, I miss weeks. I’m not as invested as on previous players, or on my other league’s active players.
Veccelli was very similar to Williams, in that he was a follow up player, who could mostly just coast on a big bank. I did that, and eventually I went mostly inactive. That bank ran out of money, and I couldn’t just coast on a max earner. So he pretty much died off towards the tail end of his career. I was able to at least use the cash from his contracts that I wasn’t spending to give Kinsinger a bit of a cushion at the start.
Now the 2 S1 players. I’ve been both here and in the PBE since S1, though I did take a few seasons off without a player in the ISFL in the mid S30s.
Both players had very similar situations for me. At the time, I was still pretty new to sim leagues. These leagues started less than a year after I’d first joined the SHL. But, by the time the leagues had started, I was an SHL GM. PT affiliation didn’t exist at that time, money was obviously starting from scratch. Even though I was in college at the time, I didn’t have all the time & energy in the world. It wasn’t easy to earn well across the 3 leagues, for me anyway. I was also in SBA and GOMHL at the same time, I think. So, they were very middling earners, but they were S1 players and so they did still get some benefits of good opportunities. Marcos was one of the best defensive center fielders of all time, and Weston was a dominant returner and a damn good receiver.
That leaves poor old Luke Smyles at the bottom of the list, lol. He was my recreate here, but because I didn’t earn that much with Weston, and I pushed Weston into regression for a decent while (he played 11 seasons), I didn’t have any kind of big bank built up for Smyles. This is actually fairly similar to both Fairborn and Kinsinger - who are my top 2 TPE earners, ever. Should have been a pretty good spot for Smyles to prosper. I created Smyles and Fairborn only a few months apart. I don’t really know what it was that made Smyles’ career never really take off. I was big in the EFL at that time, I was still in the SBA, I was still winding down my career in the SHL with York, I was GMing still. Fairborn at creation didn’t take off either, and it wasn’t until I took on a few jobs in PBE and started to get more involved that he really took off. That never happened for Smyles, I just never had the desire to get heavily involved in ISFL jobs. Even with Dolls I only got in a little bit. I don’t know. Smyles should have had a good chance at success, but he is by far my worst player.
I didn’t check all their player stats to compare who is best in the game, but I did take a look at my championships & hall of fame players.
Out of 11 players, I only have 2 hall of fame players. Now granted, 3 of those are still active players, and 1 is still pending eligibility. So only really 7 players who could have been in the hall. I have 1 each in the SHL and the ISFL, Chris York and Byron Dolls. I still believe Weston was deserving of the hall. Ironically, where the ISFL has been my least invested league, it’s produced some of my best players statistically. Dolls in the hall, Weston deserving (IMO), Turnbull I have hopes for. PBE has only had 2 players eligible, and Fairborn had an absolutely wild career, switching back and forth between starter and reliever, playing for 3 different teams, and was traded twice. And Marcos, who was good at 1 thing, and very good at it, but it’s not that spectacular or valuable to baseball voters. Neither of them made the hall, and maybe Fairborn could argue an edge case because his peaks were elite, but he shifted around so much that there were plenty of adjustment periods. I don’t think either really deserved it. Dani likely won’t make it either when she’s eligible. She was a very strong batter for her archetype & position, but it ultimately wasn’t anything spectacular aside from 1 season. She was supposed to be defensively minded, but wasn’t even really that as she didn’t do much to stand out. In SHL Veccelli was way too bad to ever be considered for the hall, and York made it. Kinsinger is my active player, with plenty of career left, so we’ll see if he ever makes it. If I’m lucky I’ll win the best offensive defenseman of the year award, and if I’m really lucky I’ll be there to see Winnipeg win a championship. Speaking of…
Ironically, while I would say overall my ISFL players have been the most successful statistically, none of them have ever won a championship. I’ve won 7 total championships across 11 players, and if you consider 0 of those are on my 4 ISFL players, I have… 7 championships across 7 players. That is carried mostly by Marcos, who won 3 straight as part of the original PBE dynasty, joining midway through the Vandals streak. York and Veccelli in the SHL both won a championship, and both won them as rookies. Fairborn was a part of the Utah team that won the first ever championship by an expansion team. Kinsinger hasn’t won one, and while Winnipeg is still the best team in the league, nothing is guaranteed. Dani never won one in the PBE, being tied to my expansion team as a GM. We only made the playoffs once, and were swept.
My ISFL players never won, and only once have any of them even really been close. Weston never even played in an Ultimus, struggling to get out of an ASFC with the Outlaws in the midst of the biggest scandal in league history, and the perennially competitive Otters. Smyles played in 4 Ultimuses - ironically, losing to the Sabercats (Weston’s only team) in their first championship - once with Philadelphia and thrice with the Wraiths, in the first 3 of their 4 consecutive losses from S18-S21. Dolls made 1 Ultimus appearance, with the Fire Salamanders in S29. Turnbull has yet to make the Ultimus, but I hope there’s a shining championship light at the end of Baltimore’s rebuild. Dolls lost by 20, Smyles lost by 12, 6, 3, and 17. The 3 point loss was the best chance to win, as the Wraiths gave up the winning TD to the Otters with 2:22 left in the game.
So anyway, that’s the tale of my sim league players. I didn’t touch on my old EFL, SBA, GOMHL, VHL, etc players, since they are much harder to track down, and those leagues are functionally quite different.
Kinsinger is my highest TPE player of all time, I will cross the 2000 TPE mark this season. But Turnbull looks like he’ll certainly make a run for my highest TPE player in the ISFL. I’m gonna do my best to keep up that pace. I’m not sure what a good goal will be, but I think I might be able to hit 1200. I don’t think 1500 is a possibility. If I’m lucky, I’ll also check that missing championship off the list with him as well.
If you took the time to read all this about my history, thanks.
Code:
2544 words