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*How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - Starboy - 09-07-2020

As any current, former, and future DSFL general manager will tell you about their job, the main goal is to develop players first and the wins will follow. It is a major part of the DSFL that I loved getting to take part in and experience with all of the new players that have come through my old Kansas City managing days and something I still enjoy every draft night. Seeing just what players develop over their first season and beyond can be exciting for any older player to watch even if they don’t end up playing for your team. However, during all of this watching and the constant reminders DSFL managers will get, some might stop and wonder just how much developing does the development league do? There are plenty of recreates that come through the system again and again that understand the game with just as many new faces braving the league in order to become the next set of veterans. Yet there has to be a moment that we pause when we look at all of the DSFL teams to wonder which team really is developing players at the best rate that can, in turn, help those new faces or struggling vets find a way to shoot into stardom with proper management and the right help needed for the job.

Of course, that might just be might thoughts alone, but it got me curious enough to start digging into the question, what DSFL team develops the most (and best) top talent? For that answer we had to dig around through the old draft classes and find out what the best way to determine ‘top talent’ in the league was. It’s not quite that difficult considering we have a numeric system in place to determine just how much a player is supposedly ‘worth’ with their TPE. The higher TPE players are usually seen in the first two to three rounds (depending on the class). So, we can cut down our group of top talent players to the first few rounds in order to really see what teams are doing the best. Another thing to add with our development metric is to get rid of the initial fifty TPE that players receive since that is a given whenever you build your player regardless of your team. There can be an argument to remove more, but not every player earns all of the rookie task TPE so keeping off the initial fifty TPE seems fair for everyone involved. Those two things can help get us down to the strict numbers of what teams are developing the best players in the DSFL. The last thing is determining where to begin our measurement to keep it relevant so we don’t have the teams that have been around forever with an obvious lead over everyone. The most relevant season to me seems like S18 since it was earlier big r/Madden classes along with having plenty of the big league names still around today. There are some teams that did not play each season from here, but we can break those down later. For now, we have our set of data.

*used only first two rounds

S18

Kansas City Coyotes KCC  (+645 TPE developed)
- Korrin Abernathy 185 TPE
- Net Gaines 203 TPE
- Xavien Adams 162 TPE
- John-Caleb Bradberton 119 TPE
- Maurice Virtanen 226 TPE

San Antonio Marshals SA (+1141 TPE developed)
- Pete Parker 220 TPE
- Ruff Ruff 197 TPE
- Mathias Hanyadi 162 TPE
- Steco Ocewilder 192 TPE
- Fabricio Baldari 154 TPE
- Mike Franchet 109 TPE
- Tyrone Biggums 220 TPE
- Juan Marston 136 TPE
- Louisiana Purchase 201 TPE

Palm Beach Solar Bears PB (+131 TPE developed)
- Zach Hall 181 TPE

Norfolk Seawolves NOR  (+623 TPE developed)
- Bjorn Ironside 221 TPE
- Marcella Toriki 209 TPE
- Marlo Smart 177 TPE
- David Rector 128 TPE
- Samuel Bakhtiari 138 TPE

Portland Pythons POR  (+429 TPE developed)
- Jake Dropson 195 TPE
- Mike Hockhertz 160 TPE
- Jay Cue 224 TPE

Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  (+834 TPE developed)
- Thudd Kassel 200 TPE
- Bender B. Rodriguez 210 TPE
- Joseph Wozniak 176 TPE
- Fuzzy Dotson 167 TPE
- Junior Lopez 168 TPE
- Howard Ryan 130 TPE
- Earl Sauce 133 TPE

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S19*

Kansas City Coyotes KCC  (+396 TPE developed)
- Brock Phoenix 186 TPE
- Rayne Gordon 186 TPE
- Mason Blaylock 174 TPE

San Antonio Marshals SA (+413 TPE developed)
- Tormund Bjornsson 105 TPE
- Herbert Prohaska 136 TPE
- Austin McCormick 236 TPE
- Jayson Kearse 136 TPE

Myrtle Beach Buccaneers BBB  (+506 TPE developed)
- Stevie Vassallo 151 TPE
- Quindarius Tyerucker 187 TPE
- Deondre Thomas-Fox 194 TPE
- Sweet James-Jones 174 TPE

Norfolk Seawolves NOR  (+56 TPE developed)
- Beat 106 TPE

Portland Pythons POR  (+448 TPE developed)
- Willie B. Hardagain 169 TPE
- Sean O’Leary 210 TPE
- Kacey Dream 219 TPE

Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  (+621 TPE developed)
- Mack Arianlacher 197 TPE
- Gary Lazer-Eyes 170 TPE
- Jed Podolak 153 TPE
- Jordan Jackson 142 TPE
- Avon Blocksdale Jr 209 TPE

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S20*

Minnesota Grey Ducks MIN  (+460 TPE developed)
- Silver Banana 123 TPE
- Thor Kirby 153 TPE
- Darrel Williams 236 TPE
- Hal Fassingit 109 TPE

Myrtle Beach Buccaneers BBB  (+551 TPE developed)
- Blake Gragg 89 TPE
- Bobby Boucher 162 TPE
- Warren Stephens 104 TPE
- Siddhu Sarvepally 136 TPE
- Ricardo Rose 114 TPE
- Awkward Sexjoke 169 TPE
- Jacoby Clay 166 TPE

Portland Pythons POR  (+517 TPE developed)
- Venus Powers 225 TPE
- Desmond Scarlett 174 TPE
- Galf Wilf 172 TPE
- Reggie Culbertson 146 TPE

Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  (+346 TPE developed)
- Kyle Idlewyld 183 TPE
- Victor Moreno 149 TPE
- Inspectah Deck 125 TPE
- Ben Kenobi 89 TPE
- Randy Vuxta 204 TPE

Of all seasons, I believe this one deserves a little text explanation as to why it looks so weird compared to other seasons. Back in the day, there was a noticeable drop in player activity that was felt the most by the Norfolk Seawolves and Kansas City Coyotes. It seems so odd today that there could even be a drop in player activity but it happened and as a result, the teams with the least amount of activity had to face the brunt of the cut backs and became bot teams for the DSFL. They did not have any players drafted in the S20 draft but with an incoming r/Madden class coming soon, the activity as a league would resurrect the Coyotes and Seawolves back onto the front of the league.

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S21

Kansas City Coyotes KCC  (+738 TPE developed)
- Riles McTackle 184 TPE
- Chip Otle 189 TPE
- Red Arrow 179 TPE
- Chris Kross 226 TPE
- Douglas Quaid 210 TPE

Minnesota Grey Ducks MIN  (+687 TPE developed)
- Holden Summers 203 TPE
- Sardine Beaner 196 TPE
- Jerome Davis 206 TPE
- Baby Yoda 194 TPE
- Rainer Wolfcastle 138 TPE

Myrtle Beach Buccaneers BBB  (+1305 TPE developed)
- Prince Vegeta 259 TPE
- Hehateme Picksix 211 TPE
- Leon McDavid 212 TPE
- Rapid Eagle 173 TPE
- Trevor Mouseman 179 TPE
- Rotticus Scott 164 TPE
- Simon Tremblay 166 TPE
- Larry Longshot 150 TPE
- Dax Frost 241 TPE

Norfolk Seawolves NOR  (+537 TPE developed)
- Pete Miller 189 TPE
- Jeff Personsacker 88 TPE
- Remon Kurisuto 185 TPE
- Juniped Catfish 179 TPE
- Dorfus Jimbo Jr 146 TPE

Portland Pythons POR  (+478 TPE developed)
- Perry Tucker 172 TPE
- Otis Allen 230 TPE
- Osiris Firestorm-Fjord 226 TPE

Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  (+478 TPE developed)
- Ed Barker 181 TPE
- Dougie Smalls 206 TPE
- Immanuel Blackstone 241 TPE

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S22

Dallas Birddogs DAL  (+1825 TPE developed)
- White Goodman 246 TPE
- Colt Mendonza 200 TPE
- Jeffrey Phillips 247 TPE
- Benson Bayler Jr 165 TPE
- Big Edd 190 TPE
- Monterey Jack 229 TPE
- Haha Mango-Panda 207 TPE
- William Lim 216 TPE
- Deshun Jones 212 TPE
- James Cho 217 TPE
- Stanislaw Koniecpolski 246 TPE

Kansas City Coyotes KCC  (+670 TPE developed)
- Eddie Jeeta 195 TPE
- Michael Witheblock 214 TPE
- Chester Sweets 202 TPE
- Phat Boi 259 TPE

London Royals LON  (+859 TPE developed)
- Derred de Ville 229 TPE
- Colby Jack 245 TPE
- Eldrick Avery 215 TPE
- Sandro Ryeu 211 TPE
- Quinn Hughes 209 TPE

Minnesota Grey Ducks MIN  (+464 TPE developed)
- Buck Thornton 214 TPE
- Lawrence Bass 199 TPE
- Mo Magic 201 TPE

Myrtle Beach Buccaneers BBB  (+832 TPE developed)
- Johnny Hellzapoppin 215 TPE
- Heath Evans 212 TPE
- Octavio Clemente 216 TPE
- Troen Egghands 221 TPE
- Brandon Booker 218 TPE

Norfolk Seawolves NOR  (+648 TPE developed)
- Magnus Rikiya 216 TPE
- Thubba Bumper 212 TPE
- Wesley Erikson 200 TPE
- Matt Cross 220 TPE

Portland Pythons POR  (+327 TPE developed)
- Tyler Oles Jr 215 TPE
- Byron Dolls 212 TPE

Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  (+308 TPE developed)
- Andrew Wittne 205 TPE
- Ben Slothlisberger 203 TPE

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S23

Dallas Birddogs DAL  (+735 TPE developed)
- Hingle McCringleberry 228 TPE
- Tyler Mountain 257 TPE
- Luca Scabbia 225 TPE
- Raphael D’Alcott 215 TPE

Kansas City Coyotes KCC  (+609 TPE developed)
- Son Goku 262 TPE
- Carl Wheezer 203 TPE
- Rigby Raccoon 138 TPE
- Reginald Covington III 206 TPE

London Royals LON  (+685 TPE developed)
- Greedy Sly 266 TPE
- Bob Bob 206 TPE
- Lesean Paris Cooks 195 TPE
- Mikel Van Perkins 218 TPE

Minnesota Grey Ducks MIN  (+831 TPE developed)
- Tychondrius Hood 226 TPE
- Julio Jones 192 TPE
- Water Chestnut III 196 TPE
- Kai Sakura 239 TPE
- Ray-Ray Jackson 228 TPE

Myrtle Beach Buccaneers BBB  (+653 TPE developed)
- L’Carpetron Dookmarriot 228 TPE
- Dick Thruster 192 TPE
- Eugene Smoothie 218 TPE
- Nicholas Ayers 215 TPE

Norfolk Seawolves NOR  (+747 TPE developed)
- Adelie de Pengu 215 TPE
- Benoit Blanco 182 TPE
- Dre Matthews 205 TPE
- Mike Karpaasi 165 TPE
- DB Jadakiss 230 TPE

Portland Pythons POR  (+695 TPE developed)
- CJ Riley 211 TPE
- Joseph Petrongolo 214 TPE
- Heinrich Kackpoo 255 TPE
- Videl-San 215 TPE

Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  (+942 TPE developed)
- Griffin Porter 210 TPE
- Bane Ka’ana’ana 236 TPE
- Jackson Kingston 206 TPE
- Doug Howlett 213 TPE
- Running Back 148 TPE
- Tycker Om 229 TPE
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S24

Dallas Birddogs DAL  (+710 TPE developed)
- Mattahias Caliban 251 TPE
- Taro Raimon 237 TPE
- Nerdy Name 154 TPE
- Zoe Watts 268 TPE

Kansas City Coyotes KCC  (+967 TPE developed)
- Brach Thomaslacher 236 TPE
- Joshua Campbell 252 TPE
- Asher Mountain 265 TPE
- Lebong Simwell 200 TPE
- Sergio Kitchens 207 TPE
- Thomas Rose 107 TPE

London Royals LON  (+970 TPE developed)
- Juan Domine 246 TPE
- Busch Light 234 TPE
- Charlemagne Cortez 212 TPE
- Macaroni Elephant 151 TPE
- Harrison Andrews 215 TPE
- Gunner Thorbjornsson 212 TPE

Minnesota Grey Ducks MIN  (+313 TPE developed)
- Azarius Ranger 157 TPE
- Alejandro Chainbreaker 256 TPE

Myrtle Beach Buccaneers BBB  (+592 TPE developed)
- Joseph Joestar 257 TPE
- Jeremiah Zelos 157 TPE
- Ne Mo 200 TPE
- Zack Mouse 178 TPE

Norfolk Seawolves NOR  (+882 TPE developed)
- Melvin Murder-Moose 195 TPE
- Sigismund Sternenstaub 197 TPE
- Captain Rodgers 195 TPE
- Rickie Vaughne 176 TPE
- Ragnar Krashwagen 173 TPE
- Quentin Button 246 TPE

Portland Pythons POR  (+710 TPE developed)
- Dorothy Zbornak 222 TPE
- Joel Drake 203 TPE
- Sam Howitzer 261 TPE
- Korbin Brown 224 TPE

Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  (+591 TPE developed)
- Icebox Roposte 154 TPE
- Adam Schell 209 TPE
- Mike Boss Jr 203 TPE
- Maverick Bowie 225 TPE

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So, we come back to the question about how well certain DSFL teams develop players for the next level. There are plenty of numbers around to fully understand the true “best developers” in the DSFL along with some interesting bits of fun trivia coming out of the DSFL. The best DSFL class along with the highest number of players drafted comes from the S22 Dallas Birddogs along with producing the most top talent at a bonus 1825 TPE on players moving on. The worst draft class comes from the S19 Norfolk Seawolves with only one player drafted in their first two rounds and the player only managed to get 56 TPE developed. Another fun fact is that, despite only being around for a couple seasons, London and Dallas are not that far behind the other teams in terms of total TPE developed. They still have a bit of a fall from the Norfolk Seawolves (who sit at 5th place) but there is definitely a quick rise coming from promising managers of the future.

However, to answer the question of the best DSFL teams with developing players...


Developed TPE Totals:


- Myrtle Beach Buccaneers BBB  – 4570 TPE

The Myrtle Beach Buccaneers definitely take the lead at total of 4570 TPE with their top players. It makes sense though with their extremely well-known managers and plenty of great players that have gone through the Solar Bears and Buccaneers.

- Minnesota Grey Ducks MIN  – 4309 TPE

In 2nd place is the Minnesota Grey Ducks that come in close with a strong former showing that has since cooled off. They had the record for the most TPE in a class until Dallas arrived.

- Tijuana Luchadores TIJ  – 4120 TPE

Next up is the Tijuana Luchadores who have always had a great showing with even their smallest classes. Something about Tijuana is that they always manage to get plenty of great players that are in high roles around the league eventually.

- Kansas City Coyotes KCC  – 4025 TPE

Then in 4th place, Kansas City Coyotes that have started to get back on track to rise up with scouting and developing after their S20 absent draft. They have been getting much better according to their past of missing out of top talent with plenty of first round talent going into the draft.

- Portland Pythons POR  – 3604 TPE

Next up is the Portland Pythons that have been producing fairly average numbers and there aren’t a ton of surprises coming out of Portland when they develop players. They haven’t had a single draft with more than four players in the first two or three rounds so that also provides to the very average Python development.

- Norfolk Seawolves NOR  – 3493 TPE

After them we have the Norfolk Seawolves that did not see that much of a rise after their S20 absence. They did not have a lot of crazy drafts worth mentioning outside of their S19 draft with only one player drafted but they’re getting much better so a major rise could be in the future.

- Dallas Birddogs DAL  – 3260 TPE

Our next team is the Dallas Birddogs that shot up quickly with their first draft and hold the record for the most TPE developed in a draft along with the most people. Even if you have some rivalry against them, that’s impressive from any standpoint and as they start to move on to new managers it will be exciting to see what comes next.

- London Royals LON  – 2514 TPE

In last place are the London Royals. Thankfully there is a bit of an explanation due to them being a still fresh expansion team without a huge draft class to push them up into the higher ranks. The Royals have a lot of potential as well so hopefully they catch up with Dallas and we see more teams developing extreme talent.


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RE: How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - Faded - 09-07-2020

ok

RE: How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - .Laser - 09-07-2020

This is fascinating. I'm interested to see which DSFL team has produced the most overall TPE including first-time players' entire TPE earnings.

RE: How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - Starboy - 09-07-2020

(09-07-2020, 04:26 PM)Laser Wrote: This is fascinating. I'm interested to see which DSFL team has produced the most overall TPE including first-time players' entire TPE earnings.


Might could look into breaking up the DSFL into “eras” to determine that and come back for an official total. Was fun doing this but took a lot of time

RE: How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - The_Kidd - 09-07-2020

wow, I've clocked about 360 TPE already since being drafted. And I didnt start earning until after I was drafted to London.

But I wanted to say, London already has two playoff appearances and an Ultimini appearance --- we're on a great pace even if we dont pump out big TPE players on the onset

RE: How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - Ben - 09-07-2020

The choice to only use the first two rounds is interesting especially in deep classes such as S22 although I understand it would be a huge amount of work to do more. I'd argue that developing the later round picks is actually a better indication as the early round picks are early round picks for a reason, they're often recreates or have proven to be max earners before the draft.

Regardless this is a cool study, and I can say the DSFL as a whole has definitely gotten better at developing players for the ISFL. Currently the locker rooms around the DSFL are the best they have ever been, most being better than what you'll find in the majors.

RE: How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - Starboy - 09-08-2020

(09-07-2020, 09:10 PM)Ben Wrote: The choice to only use the first two rounds is interesting especially in deep classes such as S22 although I understand it would be a huge amount of work to do more. I'd argue that developing the later round picks is actually a better indication as the early round picks are early round picks for a reason, they're often recreates or have proven to be max earners before the draft.

Regardless this is a cool study, and I can say the DSFL as a whole has definitely gotten better at developing players for the ISFL. Currently the locker rooms around the DSFL are the best they have ever been, most being better than what you'll find in the majors.

The first two rounds were only used for the small classes of S19 and S20. Beyond that, I used three rounds

RE: How Well Do DSFL Teams Develop? - gucci - 09-08-2020

Great article, my main takeaway is that nobody has ever had as good a draft as me with a handful of edibles, a 2 man war room, and a slew of free picks from KCC and POR.