S31 Universal Rules Summit Results

[Swanty]

In other news, I dind't think rules were supposed to be implemented immediately when we're already four weeks into a season unless they were emergency rules proposals.

You're right, these should all come into effect in the next offseason. I have modified the original post.

[qWest]

As a bumbling low-level Updater who has to double-check and input position changes from time-to-time, and who also has little say ultimately in these matters, I agree that position changes should be revamped, but it should turn into a much much simpler process. That colorful chart scares me.

Honestly, the chart system would probably be fine and I like the idea of it. It's the secondary/tertiary bank that I think would cause the most confusion and be hard to track.

[Pat]

As a bumbling low-level Updater who has to double-check and input position changes from time-to-time, and who also has little say ultimately in these matters, I agree that position changes should be revamped, but it should turn into a much much simpler process. That colorful chart scares me.

Honestly, the chart system would probably be fine and I like the idea of it. It's the secondary/tertiary bank that I think would cause the most confusion and be hard to track.

The banks already exist though when you swap, especially if you're going from say offense to defense. That part of it worrying people is a little odd since it's not a new mechanic in any way. This one just makes it apply in every situation instead of some, and honestly, if it's standardized to every time you swap then it's less confusing because it's seen more often, in my opinion.

And really, if we don't want secondary banks there are realistically two options:

A) ban position swaps
B) make all swaps just complete rebuilds of your player

I don't think anyone wants either of those things to happen.

[Raven]

User voted awards, disgusting

[infinitempg]

So we passed MOP but not MDM reform? Cmon y’all I though the MDM reform was extremely popular in leadership discussion. MOP ended up being a disaster and was cut for good reason. Personally I don’t think it’s worthy of even being in the awards stream.

Isn't MOP the one that just went to MVP or OPOTY every single season? Might as well just have another QBOTY award at that point

Most Outstanding Player
S1 - Angus Winchester (also won OPOTY)
S2 - Jayce Tuck (also won MVP)
S3 - Mike Boss (also won OPOTY)
S4 - Mike Boss (also won MVP)
S5 - Jordan Yates
S6 - Mike Boss (also won MVP)
S7 - Matt Akselsen (also won MVP)
S8 - Darren Smallwood (also won MVP)
S9 - Darren Smallwood (also won OPOTY)
S10 - Owen Taylor (also won OPOTY)

exciting

S11 - Beat Meoff (literally IA, won in a huge landslide)

some times when a thing gets ruined once, it should be ruined forever

i don't trust this userbase enough to not meme the shit out of it, unfortunately

the meme culture here, while not inherently bad, has gotten much stronger since then

[infinitempg]

https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...?tid=11167

[Raven]

https://forums.sim-football.com/showthre...?tid=11167

Haha but it sounds so fuuuuuuunnný

[37thchamber]

If a player changes positions, they will move reallocate 50% 100% of their total applied earned (minus the appropriate position switch penalty) TPE to new attributes or traits, regardless of if the TPE was already applied to an applicable attribute or trait.

FWIW this proposed change breaks the rule. Earned TPE would include regressed TPE.

There might be other things that would be ripe for abuse too, but I don't have time to properly comb through and apply my "how would slm loophole this?" test right now (if you know, you know).
I don't think a revamp is a bad idea though, and at a glance, Laser's proposal seems pretty solid.


As for worries about complications, it should be possible to create a tool to automate a lot of the process (and checks) if this is the approach we want to take. If it would put some minds at ease, I'm happy to go through this with Laser (and whoever else) to rework it to eliminate any possible loopholes we can find, and build a tool to simplify the position change process.

[Vorshayla]

Why even have user voted awards? It should point based. Takes bias right out of it and just gives points based on stats. We have a Most dedicated User award that can be user voted. Things like "x" of the year should be stat based. Find some values, attach it to stats like fantasy, and have at it.

[Oles]

I'm honestly most disappointed in the MDM rule not going through. The point of MDM should be about encouraging and spotlighting above and beyond activity, and while it may not happen as much now, 1 person winning the award 3 times in 4 seasons is not what the award should be about. Rule 6 should have been added I think, I don't really see the argument against it. Highlight the users who are making an impact and doing a lot for the community, give more people an opportunity to be noticed.