DL14 - Conduct Detrimental

[Baron1898]

Alright, first of all: To all the people meme-ing this thread, fuck off. He's a kid. He's got some issues. Be respectful. I'm pretty sure I know exactly who reported him and I don't think it's right to just whip this shit out.

And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid. He's fuckin 15 years old. When I was 15, I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in Peru. I'm a much much much better person at 22 than I was at 15 and I still don't think I've done enough improvement. Everyone's got the opportunity to grow, everybody should be working every day on becoming a slightly kinder person than the day before. That's what the anime quote in my sig was for the longest time. He's a kid, he's got time to grow.

The third thing is a bit more pointed. I really think we should start considering an age limit for the league. Almost every time I've seen a user with chronic issues with the rules, they've been a high school kid. Sure, you can call me out or whatever on what I've done, but I have done my best at every turn to try to help teach these kids some form of empathy to the point where eventually I was "league mom". I'm genuinely proud of my boys for having grown up as people and that they're not little pieces of shit still. They got the chance to improve. But it shouldn't be on the shoulders of those in the league to be mothers to these boys. There are obviously adults who have issues with empathy and need to learn a thing or two about kindness, but at least then they're treated like adults and given adult punishments because they should've learned by now. When dealing with these kids, it gets trickier.
You read this punishment and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format. That's normal in the adult world. But when we bring in a high school student, tell them they're "shared a video which was racially and culturally offensive" that sounds like the principal saying they need you to call your parents and you know that was the scariest fucking thing you had to do in school (I had to do it so many times and it's the worst). It tells the kid that they fucked up and there's nothing they can do to fix it. When it comes to punishing a kid, you need to make it a moment for them to learn from and unfortunately, the rules in this league are never going to have a delicate touch because we NEED to make sure everyone is treated equally. Even the children. Because if not, then we're talking about preferential treatment.
So yeah, get rid of the kids. There are a few success stories, but there are many more who end up either walking away for one reason or another or they cause trouble and then leave when they feel unwanted.

I had a very contentious relationship with DL in the Baltimore LR and the ISFL gen chat. He understands that at this time he hasn't done enough to deserve forgiveness for the things he's done and said to certain people. But I want him to understand that forgiveness is a process to work on. You aren't the same person forever and you can take moments like this to learn to become that better person. I've come back to this league still on my own journey to work towards forgiveness from a few people and I'm not just gonna let him chicken out and quit before he's even started.

DL: Don't be a fucking quitter and get good. Because it's gonna help you a lot in life if you can learn that now.

Okay, I shall be calm, I’m very glad you told me to, so I knew. If you know exactly who reported him, maybe why not tell us? (or at least explain their reasoning) since you’re so close to them? “And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid.” I 100% agree with this statement, A kid is a kid, please take pity, they have little idea on what they’re doing. “I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in America.” WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!? You equated yourself to him, and THEN GO INTO FASCISM AND ANTI-FEMINIST. Take a lap Baron, you need a break….We still have no idea wtf he said so this seems weird.  I really can’t tell you how weird it is to call yourself a “league mom” but you find no problem with it so. I fully agree with you that, users and people in the league grow, even season by season. I find it problematic that you keep referring to users as “mothers” and “kids”. You are a user, you’re not a mother to any user. Then “and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format” well yes, this league is trying to be very professional and strict with its rules to be “official”. That’s not just normal in the “adult world” that’s normal in the “real world”. Here is where I 100% agree with you Baron, “forgiveness is a process to work on” that’s so fucking true and I’m so glad that’s being preached. I hope DL can learn and grow from what he said!

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

[.HoshinoIchika]

Alright, first of all: To all the people meme-ing this thread, fuck off. He's a kid. He's got some issues. Be respectful. I'm pretty sure I know exactly who reported him and I don't think it's right to just whip this shit out.

And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid. He's fuckin 15 years old. When I was 15, I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in Peru. I'm a much much much better person at 22 than I was at 15 and I still don't think I've done enough improvement. Everyone's got the opportunity to grow, everybody should be working every day on becoming a slightly kinder person than the day before. That's what the anime quote in my sig was for the longest time. He's a kid, he's got time to grow.

The third thing is a bit more pointed. I really think we should start considering an age limit for the league. Almost every time I've seen a user with chronic issues with the rules, they've been a high school kid. Sure, you can call me out or whatever on what I've done, but I have done my best at every turn to try to help teach these kids some form of empathy to the point where eventually I was "league mom". I'm genuinely proud of my boys for having grown up as people and that they're not little pieces of shit still. They got the chance to improve. But it shouldn't be on the shoulders of those in the league to be mothers to these boys. There are obviously adults who have issues with empathy and need to learn a thing or two about kindness, but at least then they're treated like adults and given adult punishments because they should've learned by now. When dealing with these kids, it gets trickier.
You read this punishment and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format. That's normal in the adult world. But when we bring in a high school student, tell them they're "shared a video which was racially and culturally offensive" that sounds like the principal saying they need you to call your parents and you know that was the scariest fucking thing you had to do in school (I had to do it so many times and it's the worst). It tells the kid that they fucked up and there's nothing they can do to fix it. When it comes to punishing a kid, you need to make it a moment for them to learn from and unfortunately, the rules in this league are never going to have a delicate touch because we NEED to make sure everyone is treated equally. Even the children. Because if not, then we're talking about preferential treatment.
So yeah, get rid of the kids. There are a few success stories, but there are many more who end up either walking away for one reason or another or they cause trouble and then leave when they feel unwanted.

I had a very contentious relationship with DL in the Baltimore LR and the ISFL gen chat. He understands that at this time he hasn't done enough to deserve forgiveness for the things he's done and said to certain people. But I want him to understand that forgiveness is a process to work on. You aren't the same person forever and you can take moments like this to learn to become that better person. I've come back to this league still on my own journey to work towards forgiveness from a few people and I'm not just gonna let him chicken out and quit before he's even started.

DL: Don't be a fucking quitter and get good. Because it's gonna help you a lot in life if you can learn that now.

Okay, I shall be calm, I’m very glad you told me to, so I knew. If you know exactly who reported him, maybe why not tell us? (or at least explain their reasoning) since you’re so close to them? “And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid.” I 100% agree with this statement, A kid is a kid, please take pity, they have little idea on what they’re doing. “I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in America.” WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!? You equated yourself to him, and THEN GO INTO FASCISM AND ANTI-FEMINIST. Take a lap Baron, you need a break….We still have no idea wtf he said so this seems weird.  I really can’t tell you how weird it is to call yourself a “league mom” but you find no problem with it so. I fully agree with you that, users and people in the league grow, even season by season. I find it problematic that you keep referring to users as “mothers” and “kids”. You are a user, you’re not a mother to any user. Then “and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format” well yes, this league is trying to be very professional and strict with its rules to be “official”. That’s not just normal in the “adult world” that’s normal in the “real world”. Here is where I 100% agree with you Baron, “forgiveness is a process to work on” that’s so fucking true and I’m so glad that’s being preached. I hope DL can learn and grow from what he said!

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

[Assistant to the POR GM]

Ope

[Opera_Phantom]

Not funny I didn't laugh. Your joke is so bad I would have preferred the joke went over my head and you gave up re-telling me the joke. To be honest this is a horrid attempt at trying to get a laugh out of me. Not a chuckle, not a hehe, not even a subtle burst of air out of my esophagus. Science says before you laugh your brain preps your face muscles but I didn't even feel the slightest twitch. 0/10 this joke is so bad I cannot believe anyone legally allowed you to be creative at all. The amount of brain power you must have put into that joke has the potential to power every house on Earth. Get a personality and learn how to make jokes, read a book. I'm not saying this to be funny I genuinely mean it on how this is just bottom barrel embarrassment at comedy. You've single handedly killed humor and every comedic act on the planet. I'm so disappointed that society has failed as a whole in being able to teach you how to be funny. Honestly if I put in all my power and time to try and make your joke funny it would require Einstein himself to build a device to strap me into so I can be connected to the energy of a billion stars to do it, and even then all that joke would get from people is a subtle scuff. You're lucky I still have the slightest of empathy for you after telling that joke otherwise I would have committed every war crime in the book just to prevent you from attempting any humor ever again. We should put that joke in text books so future generations can be wary of becoming such an absolute comedic failure. Im disappointed, hurt, and outright offended that my precious time has been wasted in my brain understanding that joke. In the time that took I was planning on helping kids who have been orphaned, but because of that you've waisted my time explaining the obscene integrity of your terrible attempt at comedy. Now those kids are suffering without meals and there's nobody to blame but you. I hope you're happy with what you have done and I truly hope you can move on and learn from this piss poor attempt

[Z-Whiz]

Alright, first of all: To all the people meme-ing this thread, fuck off. He's a kid. He's got some issues. Be respectful. I'm pretty sure I know exactly who reported him and I don't think it's right to just whip this shit out.

And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid. He's fuckin 15 years old. When I was 15, I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in Peru. I'm a much much much better person at 22 than I was at 15 and I still don't think I've done enough improvement. Everyone's got the opportunity to grow, everybody should be working every day on becoming a slightly kinder person than the day before. That's what the anime quote in my sig was for the longest time. He's a kid, he's got time to grow.

The third thing is a bit more pointed. I really think we should start considering an age limit for the league. Almost every time I've seen a user with chronic issues with the rules, they've been a high school kid. Sure, you can call me out or whatever on what I've done, but I have done my best at every turn to try to help teach these kids some form of empathy to the point where eventually I was "league mom". I'm genuinely proud of my boys for having grown up as people and that they're not little pieces of shit still. They got the chance to improve. But it shouldn't be on the shoulders of those in the league to be mothers to these boys. There are obviously adults who have issues with empathy and need to learn a thing or two about kindness, but at least then they're treated like adults and given adult punishments because they should've learned by now. When dealing with these kids, it gets trickier.
You read this punishment and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format. That's normal in the adult world. But when we bring in a high school student, tell them they're "shared a video which was racially and culturally offensive" that sounds like the principal saying they need you to call your parents and you know that was the scariest fucking thing you had to do in school (I had to do it so many times and it's the worst). It tells the kid that they fucked up and there's nothing they can do to fix it. When it comes to punishing a kid, you need to make it a moment for them to learn from and unfortunately, the rules in this league are never going to have a delicate touch because we NEED to make sure everyone is treated equally. Even the children. Because if not, then we're talking about preferential treatment.
So yeah, get rid of the kids. There are a few success stories, but there are many more who end up either walking away for one reason or another or they cause trouble and then leave when they feel unwanted.

I had a very contentious relationship with DL in the Baltimore LR and the ISFL gen chat. He understands that at this time he hasn't done enough to deserve forgiveness for the things he's done and said to certain people. But I want him to understand that forgiveness is a process to work on. You aren't the same person forever and you can take moments like this to learn to become that better person. I've come back to this league still on my own journey to work towards forgiveness from a few people and I'm not just gonna let him chicken out and quit before he's even started.

DL: Don't be a fucking quitter and get good. Because it's gonna help you a lot in life if you can learn that now.

Okay, I shall be calm, I’m very glad you told me to, so I knew. If you know exactly who reported him, maybe why not tell us? (or at least explain their reasoning) since you’re so close to them? “And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid.” I 100% agree with this statement, A kid is a kid, please take pity, they have little idea on what they’re doing. “I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in America.” WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!? You equated yourself to him, and THEN GO INTO FASCISM AND ANTI-FEMINIST. Take a lap Baron, you need a break….We still have no idea wtf he said so this seems weird.  I really can’t tell you how weird it is to call yourself a “league mom” but you find no problem with it so. I fully agree with you that, users and people in the league grow, even season by season. I find it problematic that you keep referring to users as “mothers” and “kids”. You are a user, you’re not a mother to any user. Then “and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format” well yes, this league is trying to be very professional and strict with its rules to be “official”. That’s not just normal in the “adult world” that’s normal in the “real world”. Here is where I 100% agree with you Baron, “forgiveness is a process to work on” that’s so fucking true and I’m so glad that’s being preached. I hope DL can learn and grow from what he said!

How's the pasta taste?

Hold up, I was told you were inactive?

[BRNXB0MBERS]

Alright, first of all: To all the people meme-ing this thread, fuck off. He's a kid. He's got some issues. Be respectful. I'm pretty sure I know exactly who reported him and I don't think it's right to just whip this shit out.

And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid. He's fuckin 15 years old. When I was 15, I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in Peru. I'm a much much much better person at 22 than I was at 15 and I still don't think I've done enough improvement. Everyone's got the opportunity to grow, everybody should be working every day on becoming a slightly kinder person than the day before. That's what the anime quote in my sig was for the longest time. He's a kid, he's got time to grow.

The third thing is a bit more pointed. I really think we should start considering an age limit for the league. Almost every time I've seen a user with chronic issues with the rules, they've been a high school kid. Sure, you can call me out or whatever on what I've done, but I have done my best at every turn to try to help teach these kids some form of empathy to the point where eventually I was "league mom". I'm genuinely proud of my boys for having grown up as people and that they're not little pieces of shit still. They got the chance to improve. But it shouldn't be on the shoulders of those in the league to be mothers to these boys. There are obviously adults who have issues with empathy and need to learn a thing or two about kindness, but at least then they're treated like adults and given adult punishments because they should've learned by now. When dealing with these kids, it gets trickier.
You read this punishment and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format. That's normal in the adult world. But when we bring in a high school student, tell them they're "shared a video which was racially and culturally offensive" that sounds like the principal saying they need you to call your parents and you know that was the scariest fucking thing you had to do in school (I had to do it so many times and it's the worst). It tells the kid that they fucked up and there's nothing they can do to fix it. When it comes to punishing a kid, you need to make it a moment for them to learn from and unfortunately, the rules in this league are never going to have a delicate touch because we NEED to make sure everyone is treated equally. Even the children. Because if not, then we're talking about preferential treatment.
So yeah, get rid of the kids. There are a few success stories, but there are many more who end up either walking away for one reason or another or they cause trouble and then leave when they feel unwanted.

I had a very contentious relationship with DL in the Baltimore LR and the ISFL gen chat. He understands that at this time he hasn't done enough to deserve forgiveness for the things he's done and said to certain people. But I want him to understand that forgiveness is a process to work on. You aren't the same person forever and you can take moments like this to learn to become that better person. I've come back to this league still on my own journey to work towards forgiveness from a few people and I'm not just gonna let him chicken out and quit before he's even started.

DL: Don't be a fucking quitter and get good. Because it's gonna help you a lot in life if you can learn that now.

Okay, I shall be calm, I’m very glad you told me to, so I knew. If you know exactly who reported him, maybe why not tell us? (or at least explain their reasoning) since you’re so close to them? “And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid.” I 100% agree with this statement, A kid is a kid, please take pity, they have little idea on what they’re doing. “I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in America.” WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!? You equated yourself to him, and THEN GO INTO FASCISM AND ANTI-FEMINIST. Take a lap Baron, you need a break….We still have no idea wtf he said so this seems weird.  I really can’t tell you how weird it is to call yourself a “league mom” but you find no problem with it so. I fully agree with you that, users and people in the league grow, even season by season. I find it problematic that you keep referring to users as “mothers” and “kids”. You are a user, you’re not a mother to any user. Then “and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format” well yes, this league is trying to be very professional and strict with its rules to be “official”. That’s not just normal in the “adult world” that’s normal in the “real world”. Here is where I 100% agree with you Baron, “forgiveness is a process to work on” that’s so fucking true and I’m so glad that’s being preached. I hope DL can learn and grow from what he said!

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

Pasta tastes great. I don't know why you guys are having such a hard time understanding that.

P.S. If you like it al dente, you're dead to me.

[Baron1898]

Okay, I shall be calm, I’m very glad you told me to, so I knew. If you know exactly who reported him, maybe why not tell us? (or at least explain their reasoning) since you’re so close to them? “And that gets to my second point that, again, DL is just a kid.” I 100% agree with this statement, A kid is a kid, please take pity, they have little idea on what they’re doing. “I was a raging anti-feminist and one of my closest friends would end up becoming one of the faces of fascism in America.” WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!? You equated yourself to him, and THEN GO INTO FASCISM AND ANTI-FEMINIST. Take a lap Baron, you need a break….We still have no idea wtf he said so this seems weird.  I really can’t tell you how weird it is to call yourself a “league mom” but you find no problem with it so. I fully agree with you that, users and people in the league grow, even season by season. I find it problematic that you keep referring to users as “mothers” and “kids”. You are a user, you’re not a mother to any user. Then “and it is the same sort of callous boilerplate sentencing that you would see in an actual professional format” well yes, this league is trying to be very professional and strict with its rules to be “official”. That’s not just normal in the “adult world” that’s normal in the “real world”. Here is where I 100% agree with you Baron, “forgiveness is a process to work on” that’s so fucking true and I’m so glad that’s being preached. I hope DL can learn and grow from what he said!

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

Pasta tastes great.  I don't know why you guys are having such a hard time understanding that.

P.S. If you like it al dente, you're dead to me.

what's wrong with al dente?

[BRNXB0MBERS]

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

How's the pasta taste?

Pasta tastes great.  I don't know why you guys are having such a hard time understanding that.

P.S. If you like it al dente, you're dead to me.

what's wrong with al dente?

The "dente" part. The "al" part is ok, I guess.

[ForSucksFake]

Is pasta scripture?

[Raven]

Another fool taken down by a Family Guy video